Scary casino knowledge

[riggler]

I wasn't sure if the particular store I go to or not uses embedded chips.

But I do know that they knew with scary accuracy just how much I won from them last year. I play rated and I signed up for their online access to my players club account. I noticed I had a win/loss letter accessable to me from last year. When I pulled it up it pretty much nailed how much I walked away with "totalled" over several days of playing on numerous shifts and different pits.

And I'm red chipper. A bit frightening that they could tell pretty much to the dime how much I'd won from them.

 

[tribute]

I wasn't sure if the particular store I go to or not uses embedded chips.

But I do know that they knew with scary accuracy just how much I won from them last year. I play rated and I signed up for their online access to my players club account. I noticed I had a win/loss letter accessable to me from last year. When I pulled it up it pretty much nailed how much I walked away with "totalled" over several days of playing on numerous shifts and different pits.

And I'm red chipper. A bit frightening that they could tell pretty much to the dime how much I'd won from them.

Same thing happened to me. I went to the casino website and, to my surprise, found out I won several hundred there. Since I had not kept track of my play I was surprised to see I had come out ahead for the given year. I remember they do have RFID chips and table scanners in use.

 

[Sharky]

A dead giveaway that they have the ability to electronically track your bets is that the dealer will press a button prior to dealing each hand.

 

[riggler]

Yeah I have noticed that and was torn about what that meant. But one of the strange things is how much do they keep an eye on that?

I mean for the guys here whon only play SD and DD and only play alone not a biggie.

But I'm a shoe player. And freqently I'm in second spot and a few ploppys sit down and I move down a seat. So if they have my bets coordinated to the second spot, and I'm not on the third or fourth spot because I moved...or play two hands even... I just don't see the bosses keeping that keen of an eye out. I question how accurate that method can be given some stores have people shifting left and right all the time.

But my store does press the button, but it's funny that in their attempt to be accurate by that method (if that's what they are doing is tracking bets) then they are inaccurate because of the player shift.

I just don't see an accurate way to keep track of money won and money lost unless human eyes are keeping track of your buy in versus color up. About the only way to avoid that situation seems to be to have pockets full of lower denomination chips that you store in your pockets. And even then they could ask your Player Card at the cage.

All this goes without saying you play unrated. But the comps I score are pretty sweet to me...saves me just about as much as I win per trip...so that's not an option.

 

[lovethespaniard]

I like embedded chips better than subliminal sound.

 

[Mr. T]

This is from an article with Gary Loveman of Harrah's recently. Show how much Harrah's knows about you and how they rate you,

I had spent exactly 8 hours and 34 minutes gambling. They had on my screen the games I played, the duration and the value I represented. They knew, for example, that I had sat down to play Pai Gow Poker at 12:39 p.m. and gotten up from the table one hour and six minutes later. I had bought in for $800 and cashed out for $1,300. That was among my better gambling sessions that trip.

They had tracked what I’d eaten, how much I’d spent and where I’d shopped. Based on my age, gender, zip code and gaming preferences, they had assigned me a theoretical value of $529, meaning that was how much they expected me to lose every time I came to a Harrah’s property.

“You’re a good player,” said Bowers. “You’ll be getting an attractive offer from us.” Then he smiled at me. “Please, keep playing.”

Which meant I was exactly the kind of sucker they were looking for.