Should I play at this Casino?

[RealSeal]

I'm very new to card counting, I haven't tried it out anywhere but I've been practicing and researching non-stop for the last few weeks. Now the town where I come from has a Casino on an Indian reservation, but I'm not 21 yet so I have to play blackjack at a small town casino by the name of Mickey's located about 15 miles away. It has only two blackjack tables.
I've played there quite a few times, but this was before I had any idea as to what I was doing. However, they play with 6 decks--and they switch dealers every 5 to 10 min, if people at the table are winning. Every time they switch dealers, a card is burned, as well as the card burned at the beginning of each shoe. Also, they stop dealing and reshuffle a full 1.5 decks before the end of the shoe. My question is this--
Should I even try card counting at this casino? Would it be a waste of time, or is there still a good chance of winning by card counting?

 

[Sonny]

This might be a decent game, but it depends on the rules. Does the dealer stand on soft 17? Can you double down after splitting? Can you surrender? If the house edge is decent (around 0.5% or less) then you can probably beat this game with card counting. Once you know the rules you can use the Basic Strategy Engine on this site to find the house edge and proper basic strategy.

-Sonny-

 

[Ferretnparrot]

Dont worry about the switching dealers, a shoe expecially a 6 deck shoe will last less than 20 minutes typically so at most youd be losing 3 cards,

also its normal for casinos to switch dealers they do it to deter player dealer partnerships as the player woudl have to switch tables also every 15 minutes if they were attemting such a scam and it would be a dead give away

 

[Unshake]

I'm very new to card counting, I haven't tried it out anywhere but I've been practicing and researching non-stop for the last few weeks. Now the town where I come from has a Casino on an Indian reservation, but I'm not 21 yet so I have to play blackjack at a small town casino by the name of Mickey's located about 15 miles away. It has only two blackjack tables.
I've played there quite a few times, but this was before I had any idea as to what I was doing. However, they play with 6 decks--and they switch dealers every 5 to 10 min, if people at the table are winning. Every time they switch dealers, a card is burned, as well as the card burned at the beginning of each shoe. Also, they stop dealing and reshuffle a full 1.5 decks before the end of the shoe. My question is this--
Should I even try card counting at this casino? Would it be a waste of time, or is there still a good chance of winning by card counting?

The effect of missing a few cards do to burning ( <5 cards) has almost no effect in a 6 deck game, so I wouldn't worry to much about them switching dealers on you.

 

[RealSeal]

k cool, thanks guys

 

[creeping panther]

Don't bother

from what you have said I would not patronize them, plus it IS 6 decks.

Find something better to do with your money, like invest in stocks.

If you have access to a great 6d game and you have a very large BR and great skillz have at it....otherwise play 1-2 or 4d games, with fine attributes.

Creeping Panther

 

[Kasi]

Find something better to do with your money, like invest in stocks.

I was thinking how does anyone think the "gamble" of investing in stocks compare to the "gamble" of a +EV card counter anyway?

 

[InPlay]

I was thinking how does anyone think the "gamble" of investing in stocks compare to the "gamble" of a +EV card counter anyway?

Most people lose more money in the stock market then gambling. NYSE ain't nothing but one big FIXED casino.

 

[Knox]

I was thinking how does anyone think the "gamble" of investing in stocks compare to the "gamble" of a +EV card counter anyway?

Interesting analogy. I always thought that even as an AP I still needed to call what I was doing gambling. Now I realize it is not really gambling since I have an advantage over the long-term. It is actually an investment every bit as much as stocks are. I think I am going to go ahead and allocate the$50-k bankroll needed to step up to black chip play!

 

[EasyRhino]

I was thinking how does anyone think the "gamble" of investing in stocks compare to the "gamble" of a +EV card counter anyway?

Actually, learning about risk management on the gambling side has helped me get a much better feel for risk management on the stock side. Both yield results similar to a random walk with drift, but gambling is just much faster-paced.

On the stock market side though, it's more like being the casino, you have the long-term advantage. So I'm more than happy to just put my money in indexes and forget about it until tax time.

 

[Ferretnparrot]

I was thinking how does anyone think the "gamble" of investing in stocks compare to the "gamble" of a +EV card counter anyway?

My parents were concerened about me buying 4k in stocks this week, i asked them why they care so much about that when i bring 10g to ac like every other day.

It is very interesting to compare the two

 

[Kasi]

My parents were concerened about me buying 4k in stocks this week, i asked them why they care so much about that when i bring 10g to ac like every other day.

It is very interesting to compare the two

Who the heck knows but I think, like I think the last 3 or 4 posters think, that, basically, most of "them", who think stocks are the way to go, are really a bunch of ploppies not understanding what the heck might actually be going on

Especially if, say, I got all my money in a "safe" fixed income investment and want to move say 10% of it to higher-risk stocks, who's to say that extra 10% isn't better invested in +AP stuff lol. Maybe I think that extra 10% is going to earn 5% more than the fixed anyway. It's only that 5% more I have to worry about anyway, not the fixed return + the stock return.

I guess alot of this stuff had its original basis in financial risks anyway - like portfolio managers trying to manage how to best manage a billion or so and weigh risk vs reward stuff.