Should i play here?

[nizzle]

All the time i see signs around where i live for casino nights at firehouses and other places. Once a month there is a casino night at this place near my job for charity where they have holdem, blackjack, roulette, and carribean stud. I decided to check it out one night after work not too long ago.

I only played blackjack, but being as it was charity of course the rules where tweeked. On pushes, the house wins. You can only double on 9 and 10. No DAS. I believe the dealer hit on soft 17.

I actually came up 10$ after a few hours of playing. I have just recently got into card counting and was wondering if it could be profitable to play at local places like this. The dealers are just locals and they go through the whole 6 deck shoe regardless of the cut card. The cards were used so i'm sure it could be easy to 'tear' or do something to the cards to kno where it was.

I live 3 and a half hours from atlantic city so this could be a cheap opportunity to practice counting or playing for fun as the mins and max's are 2$-25$.

Any thoughts?

 

[ScottH]

All the time i see signs around where i live for casino nights at firehouses and other places. Once a month there is a casino night at this place near my job for charity where they have holdem, blackjack, roulette, and carribean stud. I decided to check it out one night after work not too long ago.

I only played blackjack, but being as it was charity of course the rules where tweeked. On pushes, the house wins. You can only double on 9 and 10. No DAS. I believe the dealer hit on soft 17.

I actually came up 10$ after a few hours of playing. I have just recently got into card counting and was wondering if it could be profitable to play at local places like this. The dealers are just locals and they go through the whole 6 deck shoe regardless of the cut card. The cards were used so i'm sure it could be easy to 'tear' or do something to the cards to kno where it was.

I live 3 and a half hours from atlantic city so this could be a cheap opportunity to practice counting or playing for fun as the mins and max's are 2$-25$.

Any thoughts?

I think the dealer wins pushes rule puts you at a pretty big disadvantage. It would be really hard to beat this game by counting.

 

[SystemsTrader]

Dealer wins ties? Run from this game, anytime the dealer wins pushes gives the house about a 9% edge. You would be better off playing slot machines or just flush your money down the toilet!

 

[tedloc]

Where???

All the time i see signs around where i live for casino nights at firehouses and other places. Once a month there is a casino night at this place near my job for charity where they have holdem, blackjack, roulette, and carribean stud. I decided to check it out one night after work not too long ago.

I only played blackjack, but being as it was charity of course the rules where tweeked. On pushes, the house wins. You can only double on 9 and 10. No DAS. I believe the dealer hit on soft 17.

I actually came up 10$ after a few hours of playing. I have just recently got into card counting and was wondering if it could be profitable to play at local places like this. The dealers are just locals and they go through the whole 6 deck shoe regardless of the cut card. The cards were used so i'm sure it could be easy to 'tear' or do something to the cards to kno where it was.

I live 3 and a half hours from atlantic city so this could be a cheap opportunity to practice counting or playing for fun as the mins and max's are 2$-25$.

Any thoughts?

Where do you play. In California, when they have a charity night you make a donation to get your chips or you play with a set amount to see, who will be the big winner (for a Prize). Who fronts the money in the game, the fire house???

 

[bnoc848]

it could be good pratice, but its still a charity, so you might be stealing from poor kids?

 

[Sonny]

I’m a dealer at some of those charity events, except we have much better rules. Even with SD S17 DAS BJ2:1 and 75% pen most people still can’t seem to win! You’d be surprised how terrible these players are. The game you described is completely unplayable, even for practicing.

In any case, you don’t get to cash in your chips at the end of the night (at least here in the US. It is different up in the Great White North). You color up and get raffle tickets for the “money” you won. The more you win, the more tickets you get and the more chances you have to win the raffles. You may be able to get away with a big spread and no heat, but don’t expect to get rich playing at these charities. If you’re lucky you might walk away with a new DVD player, but that’s about it.

-Sonny-

 

[shadroch]

The LV nites I go to in NY have better rules,and you do cash your chips in for money.
Seeing as its for charity,why would you even think about cheating by trying to mark cards?

 

[tedloc]

Hey, Nizzsle

The cards were used so i'm sure it could be easy to 'tear' or do something to the cards to kno where it was.
Any thoughts?

This is a charity event. What's next: stealing money from the blind guy, selling pencils, taking 3rd graders milk money on the way to school.

 

[NDN21]

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This is a charity event. What's next: stealing money from the blind guy, selling pencils, taking 3rd graders milk money on the way to school.

I wouldn't do it but I have no problem with someone who did. Money is money. This charity is knowlingly putting their money up for grabs. In the situations above those people aren't, they are flat-out getting robbed.

If the charity were worried about losing the kids money then why have a LV night in the first place? If they thought someone might win then they shouldn't of had the night in the first place.

Something like this happened about ten years ago here in Oklahoma. My friend took the "casino" for $650 big ones, cashed out, and then left. The organizers of the charity (police) came looking for him that night, they wanted their money back. They found him, "suggested" he give the money back and he refused, saying the money was fair game for them and for him. They tried to mention to him that the game wasn't quite legal which they aren't. He told them if they tried to do something to him he was going to the local tv stations and tell them the police were running an illegal gambling operation which they were. Standoff and my friend came out $650 richer.

I am sure the player can do something else for the charity, after he takes their money, like volunteer to wash the dishes or answer phones.

 

[tedloc]

I wouldn't do it but I have no problem with someone who did. Money is money. This charity is knowlingly putting their money up for grabs. In the situations above those people aren't, they are flat-out getting robbed.

IMHO... Anyone who would go to a charity event and cheat is a low life. Anyone who would condone that cheating and try to rationalize, is just as bad.