Situations that can blow your cover

[Stealth Bomber]

Situation #1: 1 or 2 deck game - 2 players on the table

The count calls for a max bet. The cards come, D shows 10, player on right tucks quickly, I have two face cards so I tuck. D turns the hole card, it's a face, everybody pushes with a 20. Six faces just went bye bye. There is another hand to be pitched before the shuffle. PC is watching.

What are we to do with our max bet still sitting there in the circle?

Situation #2: 1 or 2 deck game

The D has already dealt the pack very deep and the C is now a monster. But your assuming the D will most likely shuffle so you don't put out your max bet yet. Suddenly the D appears to be ready to pitch you another hand so you quickly put out your max bet which then wakes the D from a day-dream. D notices there aren't very many cards left and decides to shuffle. PC is watching.

What are we to do with our max bet still sitting there?

 

[gehrig]

depends on your bet spread.

if you were to have opened a deck/shoe with a mid-sized wager, then deviations from that appear to be less significant. opening with that mid-sized wager enables the player to mask changes, up or down depending on the count or other available information, so as to resemble some progression. table talk/jive can enforce those bet changes as well. enough free stuff.

 

[Automatic Monkey]

Situation 1- This is tougher. Probably a good time to say "God damn it, I can't even win with a 20 in this place." and switch tables.

Situation 2- leave the bet, especially in SD. It's going to cost you about 15 cents per hundred dollars to buy yourself some cover.

 

[ladykiller]

You also need to really know the PC. Does he know what he's doing or is he just a regular dumbass? Cellini's info on determining this is real good. But usually, you should leave it out there because surveillance could be watching and it's real simple to keep track on 1,2D.

 

[toddler]

Let the pit do your work

Stealth,

In either situation, if you want your bet retracted, you could have the the pit do your dirty work. Just walk away from the table with your bet in the circle. If you want, say something to the effect of "I'll be right back" as though you just saw someone you know or some other excuse that would cause you to immediately leave the table. I have seen this happen and performed by a guy sitting next to me. He shoved out three purple and a couple black, waved at a friend and walked away before one card was dealt. Dealer was confused, called the GS and the GS came over and pushed the bet out of the circle.

It's amazing what drunk gamblers can teach us.

 

[Stealth Bomber]

Re: Let the pit do your work

I've come up with quick reasons while in one of these situations to leave the table, but when I have done this, I have always pulled my own $ out of the circle making it only half believable.

I like your suggestion. It will work. In fact, it can work very well by giving us an option.

 

[Radar]

How about a cell phone?

Would that work? You could pull your phone from your pocket, step away from the table and the dealer will push it away. I actually saw this at a game. The dealer waited for about 20 seconds and then decided the game must go on and pushed him out.

Of course, you have to be pretty convincing that you're talking to someone...maybe step out of earshot?

Love the thought...makes sense to me.

 

[toddler]

Re: How 'bout a busty blonde !?

The key is to make it look natural, but as Grace Slick sang on Fast Buck Freddie..."Think fast, he thinks he's running you". If your using a good drunk act, it's simple... very simple.

It's hard to get serious when the joker is laughing!!!

toddler

 

[suicyco maniac]

Re: How about a cell phone?

Ya unless you decide to do this every 2 or 3 shoes at 4:30 AM...I mean come on who gets calls every 15 minutes at that time of night?????? Think I'm kidding....believe me it happens a lot more then you think!! I have spotted a lot of counters with this very tell...It amazes me how many counters play exactly the same...SM

 

[gehrig]

mebbe 10 years back, i saw this move...

twas at the texas. the counter had an eastern european "d.p." shtick...top coat, buttoned up white shirt, no tie, and so forth. on a dd game, each time the count went south, the punter coincidentally received an incoming cell phone call which required him to step back from the table. of course, the call terminated at shuffle-up. he added a w.c. break, between calls. similarly, he returned to the table when the shuffle was completed. the dealer and pit didn't notice.

 

[Radar]

I was thinking about one time

Since a previous post talked about walking away and letting the pit move out his chips, my thought was the same except don't walk away, just move away from the table.

Of course, it could only be done once, but usually that is all you need it for...at least for me, as my session play is short.

 

[Radar]

I don't think the guy I saw was counting...

He kept on talking away for the next two decks! hehe