learning to count
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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...every one must be in vegas??????
sloooooooooooowwwwwwwww posts
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Hey LTC.
I've been having a really good week, Been playing every day. Finally feel like I have it together. Dare I say I am playing in the "long run". UBZ11 really seems to be working for me. SO, this is just a howdy to let you know someone else is around.
Brad
Hey LTC.
I've been having a really good week, Been playing every day. Finally feel like I have it together. Dare I say I am playing in the "long run". UBZ11 really seems to be working for me. SO, this is just a howdy to let you know someone else is around.
Brad
Abraham de Moivre
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I got back from Mecca Wednesday.
The Western was bright, clean, and shiney. They have brand new chips that are all the same thickness, and new felt on most of the tables. They still use El Cortez cards. Pen was deep, and several dealers could actually deal fast.
I walked up to the PC and asked, "Pardon me, do you know where there is a casino called the Western?"
The Western was bright, clean, and shiney. They have brand new chips that are all the same thickness, and new felt on most of the tables. They still use El Cortez cards. Pen was deep, and several dealers could actually deal fast.
I walked up to the PC and asked, "Pardon me, do you know where there is a casino called the Western?"
Re: Slow posts
I assumed that my slow-as-you-go progress in learning the fundamental +/- count wouldn't be of much interest to the group at large....so, for the most part, I just check the boards and do my best to learn. Though honestly, the more exciting-seeming posts discuss stuff that I really just don't understand.
All in good time.
For the record, I'm down to about 35 seconds on a hand-flipped deck, while on the phone in a busy office. Still have yet to try and apply the count while playing though. I'm practicing estimating the number of decks in the discard tray. all that basic stuff that the majority of heavy posters forget they even know.
later.
I assumed that my slow-as-you-go progress in learning the fundamental +/- count wouldn't be of much interest to the group at large....so, for the most part, I just check the boards and do my best to learn. Though honestly, the more exciting-seeming posts discuss stuff that I really just don't understand.
All in good time.
For the record, I'm down to about 35 seconds on a hand-flipped deck, while on the phone in a busy office. Still have yet to try and apply the count while playing though. I'm practicing estimating the number of decks in the discard tray. all that basic stuff that the majority of heavy posters forget they even know.
later.
learning to count
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Re: Slow posts
I love it when a practitioner becomes deadly at this art. Like the Mayor says "It feels good to take thier money" heheheheh. BR now stands for Bank Roll.>
I love it when a practitioner becomes deadly at this art. Like the Mayor says "It feels good to take thier money" heheheheh. BR now stands for Bank Roll.>
learning to count
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ahhhhhhhhhhhh the western.
There is a young and cute oriental pit boss there. She always smiles when you raise your bets or play two hands. She never made any defensive moves. I think they knew the end was near. Where you there when the new owners moved in? I actually cashed out with two black chips that said western on em. Deep yes very deep. Single deck one and two dollar games too bad they didnt allow double after a split. I had some bodacious money on the table at those times. Mecca I like that name for LV. May you have the luck of a thousand camels holding faces and aces in thier hooves.
There is a young and cute oriental pit boss there. She always smiles when you raise your bets or play two hands. She never made any defensive moves. I think they knew the end was near. Where you there when the new owners moved in? I actually cashed out with two black chips that said western on em. Deep yes very deep. Single deck one and two dollar games too bad they didnt allow double after a split. I had some bodacious money on the table at those times. Mecca I like that name for LV. May you have the luck of a thousand camels holding faces and aces in thier hooves.
learning to count
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Re: Slow posts
As far as flipping goes that technique is time consuming and will wear on your joints. Besides you are trying to train the mind not the hands. I used to flip as well.
Try this out. Put the deck in one hand face up. then using your thumb push the cards one by one to the waiting hand. This shuffling a card from hand to hand is fast and you will be training your eyes and thought process enstead of your arms.
Next try and push two cards out then grabbing them with the recieving hand and plopping them down. This will train you to read two cards as one. You will see plus one, minus one, zero, or two nuetral cards which will register as nothing.
Next try three cards at a time. You will soon be able to see more.
After that you can start four cards...etc.
This will help you for scanning tables on the run. It will come to you one day as it did I. I looked and I saw the whole table and emediately saw the count. With this you can Wong. It will aslo help in not falling into the count every card as they come syndrome. Which can lead to whispering counts or moving the lips. If you train at multiple pulls you will be deadly.
As far as speed well I firmly believe a good counter should count down a single deck under 15 seconds. The only other thing that is as important is knowing BS better than you can count. Pull a couple cards with out looking at them and then say what they are when you get through the deck.
A lot of people like computer programs with counting features. This is good to. You can get very fast on a computer. Casino Verite is what I am currently using. I still feel a deck of Bee's is still the best way. Plus I believe if ya hold the deck long enough you can easily tell what a full deck looks like in the discard tray.
So drop the flip and embrace the push and become deadly.
As far as flipping goes that technique is time consuming and will wear on your joints. Besides you are trying to train the mind not the hands. I used to flip as well.
Try this out. Put the deck in one hand face up. then using your thumb push the cards one by one to the waiting hand. This shuffling a card from hand to hand is fast and you will be training your eyes and thought process enstead of your arms.
Next try and push two cards out then grabbing them with the recieving hand and plopping them down. This will train you to read two cards as one. You will see plus one, minus one, zero, or two nuetral cards which will register as nothing.
Next try three cards at a time. You will soon be able to see more.
After that you can start four cards...etc.
This will help you for scanning tables on the run. It will come to you one day as it did I. I looked and I saw the whole table and emediately saw the count. With this you can Wong. It will aslo help in not falling into the count every card as they come syndrome. Which can lead to whispering counts or moving the lips. If you train at multiple pulls you will be deadly.
As far as speed well I firmly believe a good counter should count down a single deck under 15 seconds. The only other thing that is as important is knowing BS better than you can count. Pull a couple cards with out looking at them and then say what they are when you get through the deck.
A lot of people like computer programs with counting features. This is good to. You can get very fast on a computer. Casino Verite is what I am currently using. I still feel a deck of Bee's is still the best way. Plus I believe if ya hold the deck long enough you can easily tell what a full deck looks like in the discard tray.
So drop the flip and embrace the push and become deadly.
Rob McGarvey
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I'd post more often but you won't see it for about 12 hours! ;> Hey, will someone hold a vote to get me back off moderated status please and thank you?? I'll be a good boy, I promise.
Rob McGarvey
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Thanks!