So I double on hard 14 ...

[sabre]

An interesting hand came up during my last casino trip.

First base is dealt hard 16 vs dealer T. The player matched the dealer upcard, but the dealer mistakenly took away the player's "match the dealer" bet. The player emphatically taps on on his missing sidebet, which the dealer interprets as a hit, and delivers a 7.

Now the player goes apoplectic, insisting that he NEVER hits 16s against a T. The floor comes over, the seven is backed up, and the man is paid his sidebet.

Now, the 7 will be the next card delivered to anyone taking a hit. The next player has a hard 15, and stays. I have a hard 14, which I promptly double, beating the dealer's 18.

Sadly, I only had a 1 unit bet out. But this mistake earned me between 1 and 2 bets (since the player on my right would probably have hit her 15, taking away the 7).

Anyone else experience strange dealer errors that resulted in nice payoffs?

 

[ChefJJ]

I've never had it where the executive decision was to let that card fly. If the table saw it, they'd burned it. So, unfortunately I haven't had that great of an opportunity. I've been able to get out of a couple bad hands with big bets out (like 15 v 10) when there was a mistake made.

In craps, it's happened to me a lot. I believe that constant small tokes at the craps table will get you some mispays, losing bets left out there for you, etc. It works here and there...benefit of the doubt I guess.

good luck

 

[ihate17]

different very often

Many houses solve these things many ways. Within the same pit, on the same shift, two different floors might resolve a dispute in completely different manner and because of this, when necessary I have no problem asking them to have the boss come over.

One thing I think that does help is how you, the player, approach things. Getting loud or nasty does not help. It might get the pit to arrive quicker but he arrives with an attitude that says that you are disturbing his losing players by making noise and he tends to be ready for a comfrontation.

Had a case recently in a house that generally tends to burn exposed cards.
I have A,2 and dealer is showing a 5. I lay out another bet besides mine early.
Player to my right has a 15, signals hit and before the card is pulled changes his mind. This, I guess, throws the dealer off and she misses me, turns a 7 for 12 and hits an 8.

Smiling at her, as begins to take people's money, I say, "I really would like that 8, pleaseee. She then sees that she ignored my hand completely and calls the floor. As the pit comes over I repeat that I really want that 8 and say it as sweetly as I can while smiling. The floor lady pushes the 8 to me
and has the dealer take the next card. In my opinion this is exactly the proper way that this hand should have been handled. No cards were "out of order" but I have seen cards burned in this same situation even though it was obvious that I was doubling before the 8 showed up. Point is, being nice will get you more with the pit than being confrontational, at least until the pit makes a decision.

Now, a good question is, what would I have done if that card had been a 10, which would bust the dealer, instead of an 8 which made my hand and would also make a hand for the dealer?
I would have sat there like a dummy and hoped the dealer paid me. Had the pit started backing up cards I would have asked to bow out of the hand since doubling A,2 and getting a 10 when you now know the dealer has 12 makes you a serious underdog. Could have gotten interesting.

ihate17

 

[Dyepaintball12]

Kind of similar, but twice in my very short gambling career I have had the dealer not take my losing bet from the table.

Maybe because I am so dang nice to them...

 

[Kasi]

Kind of similar, but twice in my very short gambling career I have had the dealer not take my losing bet from the table.

Maybe because I am so dang nice to them...

Nah - it's because you're so good-looking

 

[Dyepaintball12]

That was my next guess

 

[Mimosine]

recently a college age girl who never played blackjack before was playing at a table with me and 5 other people. she was really unsure of how to play and the dealer was helping her out greatly and in general was super nice.

girl has a 16, isn't sure what to do, dealer accidentally deals her a 7, she nicely says she didn't want it, the guy next to her (also kinda green) had a 14, dealer smiles at him and asks if he wants it, he nods yes, she gives it to him, doesn't involve the pit or anybody else. all in all a really nice move compared to other blunders i've seen and disasters that pit people have caused rather than giving the players the benefit.

on a side note, i start cheering on the green people at the table when they'd double down, despite being unsure, for the most part they were winning and i was being friendly and encouraging. anyway the girl smiles and in a nice way asks if i'm a card counter - this happens at the perfect time as i'm hitting a multi-card hand, so i stumble with adding up the count, the dealer helps me out and the whole table, myself included start laughing at me and the ridiculousness of labelling me a counter (someone who can't even add his own cards).

was a great shoe. lost 1 unit but was a great way to end my night.

 

[EasyRhino]

A while back there was a moderately cocky young guy sitting next to me, but didn't know much except for stand on 17. His cocky friends were with him. Others at the table (including me) kept suggesting that he double down and split at the right times, but he usually didn't do it.

Finally, he has something that's a no-brainer, like 11 vs 6 or something, and is still resistant to doubling down. So I helpfully offered the option "Well, you could just hit it and take a card... or you could stop playing like a pussy." His friends didn't let him live it down for a while.

... and I didn't even get stabbed in the parking lot!

 

[Kasi]

...didn't know much except for stand on 17.

I see him clearly. What a riot.

Once the dealer made some stupid mistake, dealt a few extra cards, picked up the hands, realized her mistake, called the critter over. She explains a little and he just cuts her off and says "It's a $5 table - just pay everybody" and walks away. Probably the right decision rather than wasting 15 minutes to figure it all out.

Others just seem to go out of their way to upset people so much they leave.
Maybe they win the battle but they lose the war. And don't know it.

 

[zengrifter]

Anyone else experience strange dealer errors that resulted in nice payoffs?

I hit JJs on LLadies sidebet and the dealer tried to pay me only 10-1 on $20, then the pitboss instructed him to payout $1000 (50-1). zg

 

[RJT]

I've seen some gorgeous dealer errors playing at relativly small tables. The kind that will give you +EV just by play BS.
I know of one dealer that if you sit in between 2 players who are playing higher denomination chips will often pay you off with the bigger chips by accident. I've seen this twice now. I'll convert all values to $$ as i don't play in the US. First time, had a $4 bet out (2x $2 chips) and got paid $20 (2x $10 chips) and the second time on a different night had $4 out again and got paid $100 (2x $50 chips). That's a dealer i go back to time and time again :devil:

RJT.

 

[dacium]

I was just about to say the same thing as RJT! I have been paid in black when better green. Its not my fault the lighting was shitty! Once it was ever a stack of 3.

 

[EasyRhino]

Couple weeks ago I had a sloppy $15 bet on the table. Won the hand, but the dealer interpreted one of the $5 chips as being on the side bet (pair square? royal match?), and I happened to have a pair, so he paid me 1:1 on $10, and 4:1 on $5.

I hit JJs on LLadies sidebet and the dealer tried to pay me only 10-1 on $20, then the pitboss instructed him to payout $1000 (50-1). zg

Okay, your story wins.

 

[ihate17]

Wrong chip in the tray or not?

Playing in this house where the $500 purple chip and the $5 red chip because of some second color and poor lighting can look the same.
Dealer pays my $500 winning bet with a red but quickly corrected things (called the pit) when I just pointed, but did not touch, the payout.

Sometimes a chip will wonder into the stack next to it's proper place and the dealer without looking just picks up what she thinks is a stack of that color to pay people. For a red chip to find it's way into the purple stack it would have to be an olympic type chip jumper, leaping the green and black to find a new home with purple.

ihate17

 

[Mimosine]

Sometimes a chip will wonder into the stack next to it's proper place and the dealer without looking just picks up what she thinks is a stack of that color to pay people. For a red chip to find it's way into the purple stack it would have to be an olympic type chip jumper, leaping the green and black to find a new home with purple.

ihate17

i know all my red chips aspire to such great heights!

 

[EasyRhino]

I believe a team of past-posters had great success at a joint doing combo black-brown bets at a joint where the brown chips were $500.

 

[Mimosine]

... and I didn't even get stabbed in the parking lot!

never need to worry about that, a secret legion of ninja counters hides in casino parking lots to get your back for situations such as this. the results are often posted on youtube.

 

[weavin42]

I just want to know where ZG was playing that the Lucky Ladies side bet pays 50:1 on two of the same card. I've only seen 25:1 or 20:1.