Software to test me

Dopple

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I have many time been at a certain count and wondered if over the long run my bet was good, say after 500 random occasions with the same cards and the same count, I would love to be able to know if the hit-stand decision was the best bet at the time, or a double or split for that matter.

It could be hitting the 13 vs. the dealer 2 on a slightly negative count or whatever.

Is there some software I could pay my game with and see if I was playing right?
 

TENNBEAR

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Dopple said:
I have many time been at a certain count and wondered if over the long run my bet was good, say after 500 random occasions with the same cards and the same count, I would love to be able to know if the hit-stand decision was the best bet at the time, or a double or split for that matter.

It could be hitting the 13 vs. the dealer 2 on a slightly negative count or whatever.

Is there some software I could pay my game with and see if I was playing right?
Yes Casino Verite, it is offered here on this site.
 

k_c

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Dopple said:
I have many time been at a certain count and wondered if over the long run my bet was good, say after 500 random occasions with the same cards and the same count, I would love to be able to know if the hit-stand decision was the best bet at the time, or a double or split for that matter.

It could be hitting the 13 vs. the dealer 2 on a slightly negative count or whatever.

Is there some software I could pay my game with and see if I was playing right?
The program I have been working on computes exact expected values using basic strategy for each card that is drawn. It will mark the correct basic strategy as well as flag the strategy if there is a better play available. It catalogues as many counting systems as the user wishes and can display up to 2 counts at a time. It can be used in either compute or game mode. There's more, but I'll just post(Dead link: http://www.bjstrat.net/Images/bjProg.html) _ this link to a screen shot_ and see if there is any interest. It's getting to the point where it may be sufficiently developed to be released.

k_c
 

nightspirit

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k_c said:
The program I have been working on computes exact expected values using basic strategy for each card that is drawn. It will mark the correct basic strategy as well as flag the strategy if there is a better play available. It catalogues as many counting systems as the user wishes and can display up to 2 counts at a time. It can be used in either compute or game mode. There's more, but I'll just post(Dead link: http://www.bjstrat.net/Images/bjProg.html) _ this link to a screen shot_ and see if there is any interest. It's getting to the point where it may be sufficiently developed to be released.

k_c
Good job, K_c! :)
 

jack.jackson

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k_c said:
The program I have been working on computes exact expected values using basic strategy for each card that is drawn. It will mark the correct basic strategy as well as flag the strategy if there is a better play available. It catalogues as many counting systems as the user wishes and can display up to 2 counts at a time. It can be used in either compute or game mode. There's more, but I'll just post(Dead link: http://www.bjstrat.net/Images/bjProg.html) _ this link to a screen shot_ and see if there is any interest. It's getting to the point where it may be sufficiently developed to be released.

k_c
KC,
Why do I keep getting "a unsurpotted operation was attempted"?
Pleasenote: Ive only been using computers for about 6 months. So I know its me doing something stupid or missing something obvious. I cant get it to do the calculation in demo mode.
 

k_c

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Solving the problem

jack said:
KC,
Why do I keep getting "a unsurpotted operation was attempted"?
Pleasenote: Ive only been using computers for about 6 months. So I know its me doing something stupid or missing something obvious. I cant get it to do the calculation in demo mode.
I assume you're trying to use to comp dependent demo. Probably there is some component that is required by the program that is presently inaccessible on your computer. What is your operating system? Also there is no installation program for the demo. There is a program called register.exe that comes with the download. Double click that file to execute it. You should get a message "DllRegisterServer in msflxgrd.ocx succeeded." That is likely the problem. If it isn't, PM me with more info. As long as you're using a Microsoft operating system I'm sure the problem can be fixed.

k_c
 

jack.jackson

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k_c said:
I assume you're trying to use to comp dependent demo. Probably there is some component that is required by the program that is presently inaccessible on your computer. What is your operating system? Also there is no installation program for the demo. There is a program called register.exe that comes with the download. Double click that file to execute it. You should get a message "DllRegisterServer in msflxgrd.ocx succeeded." That is likely the problem. If it isn't, PM me with more info. As long as you're using a Microsoft operating system I'm sure the problem can be fixed.

k_c

Microsoft windows XP pro Version 2002 Service Pack2

2.08GHZ 1.00GB of RAM

ITs the program that shows the 2cards together. I have to extract! P.S Ill try the different approach, as you suggested.
 

Sonny

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Dopple said:
...I would love to be able to know if the hit-stand decision was the best bet at the time, or a double or split for that matter.

It could be hitting the 13 vs. the dealer 2 on a slightly negative count or whatever.

Is there some software I could pay my game with and see if I was playing right?
You can use CVData to calculate your indices, or you can use the link below to get a free spreadsheet that will calculate them for you:

http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/tcindex/tcindex.htm (Archive copy)

The most important indices for HiLo are also in the book Blackjack Attack (both regular and risk-averse indices). And, as it turns out, the index for 13 vs. 2 is pretty close to zero so your intuition was correct. :)

-Sonny-
 

k_c

Well-Known Member
jack said:
Microsoft windows XP pro Version 2002 Service Pack2

2.08GHZ 1.00GB of RAM

ITs the program that shows the 2cards together. I have to extract! P.S Ill try the different approach, as you suggested.
You need to unzip the downloaded zip file to its own folder. Double click register.exe and you should get the success message. Once that is done, double click cdca.exe. If all is well, the program should work. There is a text file in the download that explains this. If there was an installation program, all you would have to do is install the program and the details would be taken care of but if you later decided you didn't want the program you'd need to uninstall it through add/remove programs. Without the installation program, all you have to do is just simply delete the extracted folder.

I just looked and the only instructions are on the download site. For your convenience, here they are:
Code:
Download Instructions

1. Click the download link below to download cdca_demo.zip.
2. Extract cdca_demo.zip to its own folder.
3. When extracted there should be 6 files and one folder -
	Files:
		cdca.gif - image file
		cdca.html - html file
		readme_text - information text file
		msflxgrd.ocx - Microsoft ActiveX Control file
		cdca.exe - Program executable file
		Register.exe - Program to register msflxgrd.ocx for use
	Folder:
		Win98 - Specific to Windows 98
4. Double click or click Register.exe to execute.
5. You should see a message box "DllRegisterServer in msflxgrd.ocx succeeded".
6. If you have Windows 98, please open the Win98 folder and read Win98.txt.
7. Please read read_me.txt.
8. The program is run by double clicking or clicking cdca.exe.
k_c
 
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k_c

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Stats vs actual

Sonny said:
You can use CVData to calculate your indices, or you can use the link below to get a free spreadsheet that will calculate them for you:

http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/tcindex/tcindex.htm (Archive copy)

The most important indices for HiLo are also in the book Blackjack Attack (both regular and risk-averse indices). And, as it turns out, the index for 13 vs. 2 is pretty close to zero so your intuition was correct. :)

-Sonny-
A sim endeavors to define the statistically correct play using a given count. The statisically right play is not right all the time. I'm not sure if Dopple wanted to know what is statistically right or what is actually right on a case by case basis.

k_c
 
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