SS count V. UBZ2

razzle

Member
I have been learning different counting systems for the last few months. My favorite so far has been the Uston APC. However, in "Uston on BJ" he writes that his APC is impractical for future blackjack and that his SS count is close toas efficient and much easier to opperate. Is this true? If so what is a better system the SS or UBZ2? Also where can I find any info on these systems, the tags are posted everywhere but the betting and playing stategies are nowhere to be found?
 

jack.jackson

Well-Known Member
razzle said:
I have been learning different counting systems for the last few months. My favorite so far has been the Uston APC. However, in "Uston on BJ" he writes that his APC is impractical for future blackjack and that his SS count is close toas efficient and much easier to opperate. Is this true? If so what is a better system the SS or UBZ2? Also where can I find any info on these systems, the tags are posted everywhere but the betting and playing stategies are nowhere to be found?
Bottoms up,
This is nevertheless a kind of a difficult question to answer.
The most important factor is that casinos are leaning towards a trend of 6 and 8 deck games. Therefore it would almost seem logical to learn somethig towards something with a high BC. Since that is the most important factor in multiple deck games.

The true answer to your vexing question lies primarily in what type of player
you are and what kind of bankroll you have. For example, if you play on a team and have a 10,000$ BR you should pephaps play uston ss which has a high BC of .994. Provided that your playing 4 or more decks and know how to handle unbalanced counts. If your playing solo, primarily in a 1 or 2 deck games with a smaller BR then perhaps uston apc might be the system to go with.

But as i mentionned before the 1 and 2 decks are becoming obsolete day by day. And contingent of what kind of game your playing and what kind of BR your playing with its almost impossible to say from my point of view.
 

Sonny

Well-Known Member
razzle said:
However, in "Uston on BJ" he writes that his APC is impractical for future blackjack and that his SS count is close to as efficient and much easier to operate. Is this true?
Yeah, the Uston APC is definitely obsolete. The SS count is good but there isn’t much information on it. Some of the more popular unbalanced systems are KO, Red 7 and UBZII.

razzle said:
If so what is a better system the SS or UBZ2?
The SS is a little stronger but not by much. The difference will be insignificant for most people. When in doubt, it’s usually better to learn a simple system and play it faster and more accurately.

razzle said:
Also where can I find any info on these systems, the tags are posted everywhere but the betting and playing stategies are nowhere to be found?
The info for the KO system is in Knockout Blackjack. The Red 7 and balanced Zen system are in Blackbelt in Blackjack. The info for most other systems can be found here:

http://www.qfit.com/blackjack-strategies.htm

You can also generate your own info using a good simulator like Casino Verite and one of the free programs below:

http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/tcindex/tcindex.htm (Archive copy)

-Sonny-
 

zengrifter

Banned
The SS count was developed for Uston, with help from both Snyder and GeorgeC. GeoC improved it as UBZ-1, and then further improved it as UBZ-2. Therefore UBZ-2 is the fully improved SS. UBZ-2 is the one to go with. zg
 
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