Stupid, but legal?

[crocoplhk]

A friend of mine and I went to the Sky City Casino in Adelaide last week for a few beers and some blackjack.

I've been trying to teach him to play blackjack, but I still have a ways to go. :grin:

Anyhow to my question.. About half way through our session he gets A/9, with the dealer showing a 6, it becomes his turn to act, he says "double", lays out the extra chips and the dealer refuses him, he then chooses to stand, the dealer busts and he wins.

Now while I completely understand this his move was utterly stupid, is it legal? Aren't you allowed to double on A/9, even though it is profoundly stupid?

Aside from that little snafu, we it was a pretty good night, I was up $190 after drinks, parking and food, he was up $80 after drinks and food, his first positive session.

Thanks for any answers anyone can provide.

 

[jay28]

A friend of mine and I went to the Sky City Casino in Adelaide last week for a few beers and some blackjack.

I've been trying to teach him to play blackjack, but I still have a ways to go. :grin:

Anyhow to my question.. About half way through our session he gets A/9, with the dealer showing a 6, it becomes his turn to act, he says "double", lays out the extra chips and the dealer refuses him, he then chooses to stand, the dealer busts and he wins.

Now while I completely understand this his move was utterly stupid, is it legal? Aren't you allowed to double on A/9, even though it is profoundly stupid?

Aside from that little snafu, we it was a pretty good night, I was up $190 after drinks, parking and food, he was up $80 after drinks and food, his first positive session.

Thanks for any answers anyone can provide.

It depends on the rules of the game you were playing.

if the rules are double on 9, 10 & 11 only, then casinos don't generally let you double A9 because its viewed as a soft 20 rather than a 10. If the rules are DOA then you should be allowed.

 

[Doofus]

Australian casinos don't allow you to double soft hands.

 

[Crunchmeister]

One could argue that it is a "hard" ten so....

 

[creeping panther]

Not stupid

A friend of mine and I went to the Sky City Casino in Adelaide last week for a few beers and some blackjack.

I've been trying to teach him to play blackjack, but I still have a ways to go. :grin:

Anyhow to my question.. About half way through our session he gets A/9, with the dealer showing a 6, it becomes his turn to act, he says "double", lays out the extra chips and the dealer refuses him, he then chooses to stand, the dealer busts and he wins.

Now while I completely understand this his move was utterly stupid, is it legal? Aren't you allowed to double on A/9, even though it is profoundly stupid?

Aside from that little snafu, we it was a pretty good night, I was up $190 after drinks, parking and food, he was up $80 after drinks and food, his first positive session.

Thanks for any answers anyone can provide.

At the correct time it is a very smart move. I do it at those times with great relish and baited breath....because I smell the casinos blood.:grin:

CP

 

[Cardcounter]

A friend of mine and I went to the Sky City Casino in Adelaide last week for a few beers and some blackjack.

I've been trying to teach him to play blackjack, but I still have a ways to go. :grin:

Anyhow to my question.. About half way through our session he gets A/9, with the dealer showing a 6, it becomes his turn to act, he says "double", lays out the extra chips and the dealer refuses him, he then chooses to stand, the dealer busts and he wins.


Yes it is legal to double on A/9 vs a 6 and the casinos love you for making moves like this. As long as you can double on 10-11 or more cards you can double on A/9. However anybody who wants to give up a 20 to double down is mentally challenged. I as a dealer have seen doubling on 20 twice once was soft 20 and the other was a hard 20! I wasn't the dealer on the hard 20 double down my table was dead and was watching other games! The casinos love crazy players because they win more money on them in the long run and most of the time in the short run. The dealer refusing to double him was looking out for the best interest of the player and not the Casino.

 

[creeping panther]

A friend of mine and I went to the Sky City Casino in Adelaide last week for a few beers and some blackjack.

I've been trying to teach him to play blackjack, but I still have a ways to go. :grin:

Anyhow to my question.. About half way through our session he gets A/9, with the dealer showing a 6, it becomes his turn to act, he says "double", lays out the extra chips and the dealer refuses him, he then chooses to stand, the dealer busts and he wins.


Yes it is legal to double on A/9 vs a 6 and the casinos love you for making moves like this. As long as you can double on 10-11 or more cards you can double on A/9. However anybody who wants to give up a 20 to double down is mentally challenged. I as a dealer have seen doubling on 20 twice once was soft 20 and the other was a hard 20! I wasn't the dealer on the hard 20 double down my table was dead and was watching other games! The casinos love crazy players because they win more money on them in the long run and most of the time in the short run. The dealer refusing to double him was looking out for the best interest of the player and not the Casino.

I must then be mentally challenged I have doubled on a natural, soft 20, split tens,,,,and often.... to all of them,,, and I cannot remember the last time I lost these hands I have often played to a crowd around my table as I put on a show, with drama and flair, and I loved it and so does everyone else, including pit and dealer.

CP



CP

 

[HarryKuntz]

One could argue that it is a "hard" ten so....

I have argued this myself with A8 being a hard 9 in a double 9, 10, 11 only game but unfortuately the casinos make the rules.

 

[Renzey]

I have argued this myself with A8 being a hard 9 in a double 9, 10, 11 only game but unfortuately the casinos make the rules.

In places I've played that are double on 9, 10, 11 only -- if you double A/8 and catch a deuce, you're hand is ruled to be an 11. I'm not sure what that does to the index numbers.

 

[beyondbj]

thats just depends on the rule of the game

if no soft hand double , all soft hand card cannot

if it s allow , the dealer wont forbid u to do so

(some casino only allow hard 9/10/11 for double)

 

[aslan]

I must then be mentally challenged I have doubled on a natural, soft 20, split tens,,,,and often.... to all of them,,, and I cannot remember the last time I lost these hands I have often played to a crowd around my table as I put on a show, with drama and flair, and I loved it and so does everyone else, including pit and dealer.

CP



CP

Isn't it an index play somewhere around a +5 count?

 

[BLUE]

counting

Why learn to count if u can not do things like that? If a T is due with a 6 busting 42% and averaging 19 or better 31% ????? Why not???

 

[aslan]

Why learn to count if u can not do things like that? If a T is due with a 6 busting 42% and averaging 19 or better 31% ????? Why not???

You can when the count warrants it; i.e., follow the math. Normally, the odds favor standing. Same as for video poker, you normally would not throw away a made hand--only when the odds favor going for an even better hand. The key is that the odds must favor it. Fortunately, others have already worked out the odds for us in every case imaginable. That's why they created indices, to guide us in departures from standard basic strategy.