texas shootout

[stevedicey]

there is a new game that is a cross between BJ and texas hold em. its a six deck shoe. you get four cards you keep the best two and play with five community cards you are playin. to get the best five card hand. you are playing against the dealer with only one bet. it has a side bet like lucky ladies..does anybody know hot to count it or figure out when the side bet is in the players faver. any help would be appreciated. regards stevedicey.

 

[The Mayor]

This is a great question to ask the wizard:

www.wizardofodds.com

--Mayor

 

[Coug Fan]

I know this game well. It is great for using match plays. I would think that the main bet would be uncountable since both player and dealer are using the same cards. A very complex counting system might be used to exploit the side bet, but you would probably have to keep track of specific ranks (to identify increased likelihood of 5 of a kind, etc).

 

[stevedicey]

dear mr. mayor. t/u for your response.. i looked at the sight and couldnt find any info on texas shootout. its a new game. also i want to send my condolances for your friend who died recently. after you described him in that black leather coat. i remember one of my lv trips i was at the el cortez and i remember a fellow fiting that decription playing bj. im sorry to hear of his passing. regards to you. i hope to chat with you again. regards stevedicey.

 

[Rob McGarvey]

That was Kev Costner in his Elvis outfit 3000 miles from Graceland....Canada, eh. Worst day fishin is better than the best day workin.

RIP L-BEE

 

[Rob McGarvey]

no one can wait that long for the answer ;>

 

[none]

Would be interesting to find out what the house edge is.

 

[Theef]

What are the rules?

I'd like to know more details - Does the dealer make decisions such as in blackjack or pai gow? Are you beating the dealer or is there a paytable? What's the unfair rule that gives the house the advantage?

 

[stevedicey]

Re: What are the rules?

you are delt 4 cards. you keep the best two you can double down and play two hands with all four cards. you have a flop of five cards. you make the best hand five out of seven cards. dealer wins pushes but they are rare. six deck shoe. you play dealer only. only first bet accepted. five of a kind biggest hand. with lucky ladies side type side bet. i could see where you can count and play side bet only but cant figure how to count the main action. its a cross between texas hold'um and BJ. regards stevedicey.

 

[Coug Fan]

Re: Would be interesting to find out what the house edge is.

It would be possible to calculate the HE assuming that the player used the dealer strategy, which would likely be the optimal strategy for the main bet in this game. My belief is that the actual HE is alot higher than the "theoretical" edge because the side bet encourages players to deviate from the dealer strategy. Of course, the side bet is optional, but almost all players play it. For an example of what I mean, a player may be tempted to keep a 2,3 suited instead of a pair of 8's even though the pair of 8's may give them a better chance to win the main bet.

Note: I am not a Hold 'em expert, so the 2,3 suited may actually be a stronger starting hand. I was trying to think of an example.

It would be interesting to look at a ranking of starting hands (2 cards) for Hold 'em and determine whether the Dealer Strategy is really optimal.

 

[Anon for now]

So, nobody knows what the house edge is? Not event the Mayor?

 

[stevedicey]

Re: So, nobody knows what the house edge is? Not event the Mayor?

could you please heip esp with the side bet. regards stevedicey;

 

[Kendall Hardman]

house takes splits, is the only house advantage that i can see

I stumbled home from Vegas today. I put-back the majority of my gambling time playing the new "Texas Shootout" at the Sahara casino, which was the only establishment I could find that had this kick-ass game, (rumor has it that "Sam's Town" also furnishes it). I don't play bonus, or "sucker bets", you have to have a dynamite hand such as five of a kind or a straight flush to make it worth your while, otherwise your just throwing away potential playing money. The only advantage the house has is that "splits" or "pushes" go to the house. One advantage, or disadvantage, depending upon how you look at it that the players have the option to split their four cards, so if you get dealt aces and kings, you don't have to throw two away, you can match your bet and play both. If you can sit down, and luck your way from to many splits, catch a few cards, and lay off the bonus junk, it's a toe-to-toe bout between you and the dealer with seemingly better odds than black-jack, and certainly more exciting, especially if you've spent the last ten years like I have playing count to 21, or don't cause you just busted again.