The gold standard of blackjack!

Cardcounter

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The gold standard of lake tahoe blackjack is single deck double on any first two cards, blackjack pays 3 to 2, split any pair, hit soft 17. Offered at Boomtown and other places in Reno. This game is probaly the gold standard of blackjack offered any where in the world including vegas. Other casinos might match these rules but no casino today will beat them by offering the smae rules except the dealer will stay on soft 17.

You can also add double deck double any first two cards, double after a split, blackjack pays 3 to 2, probaly hit soft 17 to the gold standard list. Offered in some places in vegas.

The silver standard for single deck is double down on 10-11 only, blackjack pays 3 to 2, hit soft 17. This game is offered at Crystal Bay Club and a lot of other casinos in the lake tahoe area. Certainly better than crappy vegas game of 6 to 5.

The gold standard for a 6 deck shoe it is double any two cards, double after a split, resplit aces up to 4 times, blackjack pays 3 to 2, one deck cut off.

The gold standard of blackjack rules are the bect to play and should be your first choice the silver standard is playable but should come only as a second choice.
 
Cardcounter said:
The gold standard of lake tahoe blackjack is single deck double on any first two cards, blackjack pays 3 to 2, split any pair, hit soft 17. Offered at Boomtown and other places in Reno. This game is probaly the gold standard of blackjack offered any where in the world including vegas. Other casinos might match these rules but no casino today will beat them by offering the smae rules except the dealer will stay on soft 17.

You can also add double deck double any first two cards, double after a split, blackjack pays 3 to 2, probaly hit soft 17 to the gold standard list. Offered in some places in vegas.

The silver standard for single deck is double down on 10-11 only, blackjack pays 3 to 2, hit soft 17. This game is offered at Crystal Bay Club and a lot of other casinos in the lake tahoe area. Certainly better than crappy vegas game of 6 to 5.

The gold standard for a 6 deck shoe it is double any two cards, double after a split, resplit aces up to 4 times, blackjack pays 3 to 2, one deck cut off.

The gold standard of blackjack rules are the bect to play and should be your first choice the silver standard is playable but should come only as a second choice.
those damn sure are GOLD, but nothing "standard" about it.. those are same damn good games, one of which had a .015% house edge (the first one you listed, if you can DAS and DA2 and split to 4 hands)
 

TENNBEAR

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Not only in Reno

Cardcounter said:
The gold standard of lake tahoe blackjack is single deck double on any first two cards, blackjack pays 3 to 2, split any pair, hit soft 17. Offered at Boomtown and other places in Reno. This game is probaly the gold standard of blackjack offered any where in the world including vegas. Other casinos might match these rules but no casino today will beat them by offering the smae rules except the dealer will stay on soft 17.

You can also add double deck double any first two cards, double after a split, blackjack pays 3 to 2, probaly hit soft 17 to the gold standard list. Offered in some places in vegas.

The silver standard for single deck is double down on 10-11 only, blackjack pays 3 to 2, hit soft 17. This game is offered at Crystal Bay Club and a lot of other casinos in the lake tahoe area. Certainly better than crappy vegas game of 6 to 5.

The gold standard for a 6 deck shoe it is double any two cards, double after a split, resplit aces up to 4 times, blackjack pays 3 to 2, one deck cut off.

The gold standard of blackjack rules are the bect to play and should be your first choice the silver standard is playable but should come only as a second choice.
We have the same (Gold Standard Games) in Tunica MS. however you will have to play a 25.00 min. table for these rules.
 

EasyRhino

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And please don't forget the alamo truckstop. "Gold standard" single deck, plus late surrender is allowed.
 

avs21

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EasyRhino: Using late surrender at the Alamo can be more harmful than helpful.



TENNBEAR: are the $10 H17 3/2 SD DA2 gone at the horseshoe and fitz? It has been awhile since I have been to Tunica.
 
avs21 said:
EasyRhino: Using late surrender at the Alamo can be more harmful than helpful.
If you want to use LS in a SD game, it's a good idea to learn a whole bunch of risk-averse index plays. Surveillance will not recognize them as proper strategy and just think you're a weak player.
 

TENNBEAR

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avs21 said:
EasyRhino: Using late surrender at the Alamo can be more harmful than helpful.



TENNBEAR: are the $10 H17 3/2 SD DA2 gone at the horseshoe and fitz? It has been awhile since I have been to Tunica.
I have not seen good 10.00 min single deck games in those stores for quite a while. However I have moved up to the green level and really not looked for 10.00 min. single deck. The good single deck 25.00 min. game I played a few weeks ago was at the Grand in the high limit room on Monday morning, I play double deck the most. The Gold strike now has a notch in the discard tray on their double deck game where they set the cut card giving about 60% penetration, this is an improvment. The Shereton is where I can play heads up 25.00 DD on Saturday night, and seem to win more there, never crowded. The fritz and the Horsehoe casinos are favorites, the Grand is where they comp my room, other than that you would not catch me in the joint.
 
TENNBEAR said:
I have not seen good 10.00 min single deck games in those stores for quite a while. However I have moved up to the green level and really not looked for 10.00 min. single deck. The good single deck 25.00 min. game I played a few weeks ago was at the Grand in the high limit room on Monday morning, I play double deck the most. The Gold strike now has a notch in the discard tray on their double deck game where they set the cut card giving about 60% penetration, this is an improvment. The Shereton is where I can play heads up 25.00 DD on Saturday night, and seem to win more there, never crowded. The fritz and the Horsehoe casinos are favorites, the Grand is where they comp my room, other than that you would not catch me in the joint.
just curious, what are the rules for that $25 dd game? s/h 17? da2? das? splits?
 

TENNBEAR

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SilentBob420BMFJ said:
just curious, what are the rules for that $25 dd game? s/h 17? da2? das? splits?
The same rules are for most Tunica casinos ( good games 25.00 min)
Single Deck 3/2, h17, double on any, no das, resplit aces to 4
Double deck 3/2, h/17, double on any, das, resplit aces to 4
 
TENNBEAR said:
The same rules are for most Tunica casinos ( good games 25.00 min)
Single Deck 3/2, h17, double on any, no das, resplit aces to 4
Double deck 3/2, h/17, double on any, das, resplit aces to 4
when you say "resplit aces to 4" are you saying you can split to 4 hands, and resplit aces?
house edge for SD - h17, da2, no das, rsa, split to 4 = .12/.27 (composition/total dependent)
house edge for DD - h17, da2, das, rsa, split to 4 = .33/.40 (composition/total dependent)

The "optimal results" (composition) are based on perfect composition dependent strategy and the dealer shuffling after every hand, which benefits the player. The "realistic results" (total) are based on total dependent basic strategy, like the tables on this site (wizardofodds.com), and the use of a cut card, which favors the dealer.

are you sure about the resplitting of aces on those games? because that SD game as listed is a MONSTER game, and probably the best in the country.. i tell you what, i would play that SD game using composition dependent bs instead of using hi-lo with 8D - s17, da2, das, split to 4 (.45%)
 
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EasyRhino

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avs21 said:
EasyRhino: Using late surrender at the Alamo can be more harmful than helpful.
I didn't have any trouble there, but it was only two, not-long (1-1.5hr) sessions. Actually, only one dealer out of four or five even called out "surrender" when I asked for it.

I agree with AM that using every conceivable index and RA index surrender in a single deck game is a good idea. Although I'm not so sure about trying to pull the wool under surveillance's eyes when you're at a truckstop.
 

nc-tom

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EasyRhino said:
And please don't forget the alamo truckstop. "Gold standard" single deck, plus late surrender is allowed.
Man I love this place, make a point of stopping by for a daily 30 min stop every time i am in the area. Dont seem as hung up on players playing sur as they used to be.
 

TENNBEAR

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SilentBob420BMFJ said:
when you say "resplit aces to 4" are you saying you can split to 4 hands, and resplit aces?
house edge for SD - h17, da2, no das, rsa, split to 4 = .12/.27 (composition/total dependent)
house edge for DD - h17, da2, das, rsa, split to 4 = .33/.40 (composition/total dependent)

The "optimal results" (composition) are based on perfect composition dependent strategy and the dealer shuffling after every hand, which benefits the player. The "realistic results" (total) are based on total dependent basic strategy, like the tables on this site (wizardofodds.com), and the use of a cut card, which favors the dealer.

are you sure about the resplitting of aces on those games? because that SD game as listed is a MONSTER game, and probably the best in the country.. i tell you what, i would play that SD game using composition dependent bs instead of using hi-lo with 8D - s17, da2, das, split to 4 (.45%)
Answer to your question, Yes you can resplit aces up to 4 times. Current Blackjack news rates this single deck game as .15 house advantage
 

avs21

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The first time I played at the Alamo I used late surrender. After about 20mins of having a very succesfull session. I get a new dealer who wasn't in the pit orginally. The original dealer was dealing out 70% pen the new one dealt out only 50%. The new dealer started questioning some of my playing decisions and also what I do for a living. I also was playing when the tables were pretty much empty and the rest of the players during that session did not even know what LS was. I heard later on that the Alamo might send in a PC dealer if someone is using LS. The next time I went I had another winning session of the same level, but did not recieve any heat I did not use LS.
 
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EasyRhino said:
I didn't have any trouble there, but it was only two, not-long (1-1.5hr) sessions. Actually, only one dealer out of four or five even called out "surrender" when I asked for it.

I agree with AM that using every conceivable index and RA index surrender in a single deck game is a good idea. Although I'm not so sure about trying to pull the wool under surveillance's eyes when you're at a truckstop.
If you think that truckstop is a trip, you ought to see the 4-Way in Wells! It has the feel of playing blackjack at a table in a luncheonette. At 2-4 often empty tables and a $50 max bet, there is no way they could afford to pay even one full time surveillance person.

I'd be surprised if anyone is manning the eye at the Alamo either, and if they are, they are probably splitting their attention between the BJ tables and the gas pumps. They'd stand to lose more due to drive-offs. Although the first time I ever played there, I did get shuffled up.
 
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