The ZG-60

longwolf

Active Member
In the ZG-Barfarkel Interview. ZG suggests using 60 indices.
Can someone give the TC's and play alterations that go with them?

(from the pdf)
12 vs. 2-6
13 vs. 2-6
14 vs. 2-6&9-10
15 vs. 2&9-A
16 vs. 9-A
8 vs. 4-6
9 vs. 2-4&7
10 vs. 8-A
11 vs. 8-A
A8 vs. 4-6
A9 vs. 4-6
88 vs. 10-A
99 vs. A
10s vs. 4-6
 

longwolf

Active Member
Thx Jack & ZG,

Let me see if I under stand it correctly.

Hand; TC; Action
12 vs. 2-3; +3 or more; stand
12 vs. 4-6; 0 or less; hit
13 vs. 2-6; -3 or less; Hit
14 vs. 2-6; -6 or less; hit
14 vs. 9-10; +9 or more; stand
15 vs. 2; -7 or less; hit
15 vs. 9-A; +6 or more; stand
16 vs. 9-A; +3 or more; stand
8 vs. 4-6; +4 or more; DD
9 vs. 2-4; -1 or less; hit
9 vs. 7; +4 or more; DD
10 vs. 8-9; -3 or less; hit
10 vs. 8-A; +2 or more; DD
11 vs. 8-A; -4 or less; hit
A8 vs. 4-6; +1 or more; DD
A9 vs. 4-6; +5 or more; DD
88 vs. 10-A; -10 or less; hit
99 vs. A; +2 or more; Split
10s vs. 4-6; +6 or more; Split
 

zengrifter

Banned
Here's another set of HiLo#s. Compare the two sets, then composite between the two, then reduce to ZG-60, then round them. zg
HiLo by SAGE -
(Dead link: http://www.s-a-g-e.com/countstr.html)
 

dacium

Well-Known Member
That "Blackjack Therapy" is good, but some of his understanding is way off the mark.

"In both examples it would seem to be very shallow penetration, but from a careful reading of Theory of Blackjack (all editions would have this information) by Peter Griffin, all the hands played are at that depth. It is if you were allowed to play thousands of shoes by first seeing 75 cards + burned, played the round (and included the players cards now on the layout, which helps too –so never let the top counted round “expire,” in your running count until the end of each round). The edge is not spectacular but it is still an edge and few casinos will believe it is there; just look at the odd fact the true count divisor is always the total number of decks in the pack again! It is too strange, but the income player, with a black chip and higher bankroll, would do well to play these games, raise their bets ferociously (at least for now) and milk that casino for every possible comp. Even after it is proven this edge exists the surveilence staff is going to find it hard to prove that the player is counting (thankfully there have been enough outside -- and even a few inside quiet stockholder -- lawsuits where some degree of proof is needed to throw out possible counters –the Coast Casinos group excluded)."

That whole paragraph is pretty much complete rubbish. He seems to be saying that he believes you can card count a CSM. But of course the fallacy he missed is that you do not get to continue playing at the same depth, because the cards are shuffled back in. You really only get 20 cards at that depth.
 

zengrifter

Banned
dacium said:
That "Blackjack Therapy" is good, but some of his understanding is way off the mark.
The author, Clarke Cant is/was an original thinker of BJ. He' disappeared and I miss him. zg
 

sagefr0g

Well-Known Member
bj2007 said:
Would you ever use late surrender with 88 vs 10 or A?
for hi/lo ls 88v10 tc>=+1 i doubt you'd see high enough tc for 88vA very often not sure what it is.
(talkin six deck here)
 
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