Titles

Big Bill

Member
Eliot,

Are you locked in to the title and tag line already. Covers are one thing, but I think the words matter most (more?).

Never Split Tens - Lessons Learned at the Blackjack Table and at Life

Banned! - The Life and Times of a Professional Blackjack Player

Step Away From the Blackjack Table, Please - Too Good to Play

Splitting Tens and Other Dumb Things I've Done - My life as a Blackjack Pro, in and out of the Casino

Streetsmart Blackjack - Playing to win at 21 and at Life

Color Me Up! - a Winner's Guide to Blackjack, and beyond.

Or maybe I should sleep on it a bit first ;-). Anyway, reality is the cover will be way down on the list. True, I suppose, when books were sold at bookstores only, but in this day and age the title matters most and a well chosen title can double or triple your success.

BB
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
Great suggestions

I do like the title "The Blackjack Zone" because it is the central theme of the book. I introduce this zone early on, and refer to it consistently throughout the text. Any other title would not fit the content of the text nearly as well.

The sub-title, however, is another matter. I am completely dissatisfied with the current subtitle, and in looking at the ones you suggested, I can see many new ideas with great potential.

Thanks. If you have any more ideas, PLEASE post them. You obviously have some talent for this sort of thing.

--Mayor
 

Big Bill

Member
And another thing . . .

Will do some thinking since you ask. Can I mention one more thing I think important? Don't take this the wrong way, but that "Ph.D" thing?

Kiss of death.

The entertainment value here is way up on the list of what you bring to the table, having read your posts and articles and the blurb. Yes, I know there's a time and place for the math guys and their stuff, but I doubt your market is looking for that from you. I want to be entertained and learn a little something something in the process.

Can you do that with the Ph.D on the cover?

Well, you can but let me tell you, I see "Ph.D" on the cover and I think "not fun" and "lots of charts and graphs" and "I'll just have to pay my dues and slog through it." Sure, I've bought them and I've studied them but I don't particularly enjoy them.

Enjoyment sells.

How do you want to be perceived, or preperceived to the guy with the Visa card in hand looking to have fun and learn some friendly blackjack skills? Do you really want to position yourself as an egghead? You do and I'm betting he ain't buying.

I see "Phd," I'm thinking twice before clicking that "one click ordering" button on Amazon. I want to be entertained, entertain is what you do so it's a perfect fit. Don't muck it up now by throwing me that Ph.D thingie and make me have to wonder about what I'm getting into.

I'm not here to be educated - I'm here to have fun, be entertained, and learn a little somthing about the game of 21.

"About the author," that's where that Ph.D thing matters and tells me you know what you're talking about in terms of your ability to get the numbers right. I think that's probably good enough.

Question:

The purpose of this effort is what - to show everyone how smart you are or to put dough in your pocket? If it's the latter, lose the Ph.D and for god's sake, no more masterbation stories, puleeeeez! ;-).

BB
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
I completely disagree

>Can I mention one more thing I think important? Don't take this the wrong way, but that "Ph.D" thing? Kiss of death.

It is not a "Ph.D. thing." It is a Ph.D. in mathematics at age 25, 15 years as a professor of mathematics, over 20 professional publications in peer reviewed journals, and a current position at one of the top schools in the country. These kind of academic credentials are very rare among those who write books on blackjack (or most anything else), and are one of its strongest selling points. I am proud of my academic credentials.

There is one other book I can think of in blackjack that has Ph.D. on the cover, and that is KO blackjack (Olaf Vancurra, Ph.D.). It's one of the best selling BJ books of all time.

--Mayor
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
The central theme

In order to get people to understand the cost of misplaying a hand, I create this weird place where for 10,000 hands in a row you are dealt the exact same hand against the same dealer up card. This weird place where the same thing happens over and over is NOT an impossible scenario, just a highly improbable one. I call it "The Blackjack Zone" because it does have a feeling like "The Twighlight Zone" in its weirdness.

It is in this place that I evaluate the true cost of various ways the player might choose to play this hand.

Uses in context might be...

"If the player chose to always hit A-7 vs. T then in the blackjack zone this would cost the player..."

Hence the title.

Hope this helps,

--Mayor
 

Big Bill

Member
Forest for the trees

Eliot,

You can't see it. You won't ever see it. You're too close to the subject to be able to separate yourself from it and as a result, it's impossible for you or anyone in your position to step back and see it for what it is.

You're talking to an avid consumer of blackjack books, software and related products. And while I'm certain your academia accomplishments are noteworthy and something you have every right to be proud of, I can promise you the fact that you are a credentialled math professor is not something that impresses me . . . and I'm your absolute best possible potential customer.

I have the same problem in my line of work and trust me, the last opinion that matters when it comes to taking a step backward and seeing things for what they are, is me. I can't possibly see what others see because my judgment is clouded with things I consider important and those thing, while important to me, may not be important in terms of making sales happen.

I once wrote a 60k word course that do date has sold 19 copies. I still believe it's the best thing I've ever written. See what I mean?

I sold $22k in courses this month. That's net. All good stuff, to be sure, but in order to pull that off meant incorporating things into my approach I would not believe mattered or would be important. Now, I know better.

In blackjack I've learned to be dispassionate about outcomes. I'm more concerned about my ability to play error free at the highest possible skill level I've achieved to day, and accept that in even my very best playing outings, the chips will fall where they may. I suggest the same dispassionate approach here to the marketing of your book.

I thought this was to be a book for the mass market. I'm willing to bet your target audience has few 25 year old Ph.d'ers. More likely, they're 25 year old Mac.D'ers who want to learn how an average guy like themselves can beat the casinos to a pulp. Know why I bought KO? Because, like the cover says, it's "the easiest card counting system ever devised." I bought it IN SPITE OF the Ph.d credential.

"Oh, I didn't realize you have to have a Ph.D to be able to pull that off. Never mind."

Are you selling to AP's or Ploppies? Imagine which market is bigger and you have your answer. Agreed, AP's appreciate and respect and seek out authors such as yourself who come bringing the numbers that matter. But a ploppy? No way.

Likewise, for what it's worth, (and you're certainly able to completely disagree), I can tell you from a consumer of blackjack products that the Ph.D tag tells me boredom is just around the corner and at this point, I'll likely still buy the book but do so only because I already know you're a good read.

But the guy off the street?

Not gonna happen.

I loved KO because it completely suprised me that it was presented in such a friendly manner. It was one of the last counting books I bought because I'd already discovered that digesting blackjack books by Ph.D'ers was way beyond my commitment level back then.

You responded to my earlier post with the math wiz kid creditials. Damn, that IS good stuff! Just like the MIT thingie romanced me into buying anything Team MIT related, that math wiz bit has the same feel and my credit card is jumping out of my wallet as we speak. Were it me - that's where I'd be taking aim.

The last thing I want to read is something with charts and graphs and math formuli from some math professor who thinks bouncing numbers around in his head is fun. Numbers aren't fun. You tell me my choice is between that and Jerry P's killer card clumping tactics that'll teach me in a weekend which tables are hot (hey, look at that empty check tray!) and which aren't (gee, they're all frowning) and guess where my dollars are headed, unfortunately.

I appreciate your insights, your opinions and your entertaining style. This, in spite of the Ph.d. Imagine!

BB
 
PhD yes, MB no

PhD is a winner to me. I don't have one but it doesn't put me off, doesn't make me think someone is trying to be pretentious. Now what's pretentious is a guy just out of college with his PhD and insists on being called "Doctor" by everyone in the lab. People who have had their doctorate for 40 years, have international acclaim and who were even Nobel candidates are called by their first names by the people they work with, even low level technicians.

What's important to add though is the nature of the degree, where conferred and in what area, because anyone can get a PhD and all the frauds do. I get offered them all the time in spam. And another thing I would consider to lend credence to your book are your bridge and chess accomplishments, because I know what it takes to master these games and how many of the skills can be transferred to the casino games.

On the other hand, the personal and sexual references, they embarrass me a little bit. But only because they involve intimacy and your wife, if they were stripper and whorehouse stories they would be more readable, descriptive of the Las Vegas environment and the kinds of things that are part of the thrill, for some, of the life of a gamer.
 

Stealth Bomber

Well-Known Member
B B may have a valid point

Mayor, maybe you should show them your credentials after the hook is set. Then reel them in with your knowledge and teaching abilities.
 

oldnewbie

Member
Mr. Mayor, See what happens...

When you ask for advice?

I've done a little programming for the company I work for, and have learned to never ask for advice for a "beta version". I just give it to them finished. If they come and ask for refinements, fine. I might do it, I might not, depending on the time I have. If I asked for advice up front, I would be tangled in the same web you are now.

As for me, ploppy that I am, I'm more interested in the content of the book, rather than its cover. I found the titles for the BJ books that I've bought on this and some other boards. The one title I didn't see on any of the boards was "Cutting Edge Blackjack" by Richard Harvey. As it happens, I started reading and smelled a con. I checked on one of these boards, and found out about him. Ah, well, live and learn.

Anyway, I digress. Just give us the book, already! If you have to, put a scantily-clad babe on the cover. That's sure to sell a lot of copies!

oldnewbie

ps. Just kidding about that babe thing.
 

Titaniumman

Well-Known Member
Eliot, I've just sent you some cover art.

It's an exceptional piece for a blackjack book cover.

It can be sized to the upper left corner to allow as much book cover text as desired.

It was done for me for a project that never got off the ground.

I own it, but if you want to use it for your book, you may have it. If you don't want to use it, please do not allow anyone else to have it as I may then find another use for it.
 

Titaniumman

Well-Known Member
Hmmmm.

That's the address to which I sent it.

I just re-sent it. Let me know if you get it.

[email protected]

I had not noticed the other art you have displayed. You may or may not like this better. Feel free to accept it or turn it down.
 

Wildcard

New Member
my 2 cents on the covers, title and Ph.D

Eliot,

A rare post by me here, but since you solicited a response, I'm tossing my opinion into the mix.

You definitely need to work on the cover, I found it unappealing and not quite what I'd expect from a blackjack book. Perhaps a bit more work with the Vegas theme would find a stronger audience of purchasing activity.

What's with the "life" thing? Are you now going to share your life experiences and proceed to tell everyone you've discovered the successful way to live one's life? How does that relate to blackjack? I read blackjack books for knowledge about the game, not an informational guide on life. Perhaps I missed something in the inclusion of "life", but it comes over to me as a bit on the aloof side. Seems to me you're mixing apples and oranges, if the book is about blackjack, then stick to your topic, I don't need to read about how you've lived your life.

Dump the Ph.D thing on the cover. Don't for a nano second think that Vancura's book became a best seller because he has a Doctorate, it was the content of the book that made his sales soar, NOT his title. Besides, compared to your artwork, Vancura's "Ph.D was rather innocuous, as the red boxing gloves and rather impressive "Knock Out" and "Blackjack" print clearly overshadows who has what degree.

Accomplishments are for inside the cover, to allow the reader to quickly see the expertise of the author. This is often reserved in a "forward", or area entitled "about the author". If this is an ego thing, then do what you gotta do, it's your book, but for me, it just comes over a bit on the pretentious side. I certainly appreciate and respect your accomplishments, but toot your horn inside the book, not on the cover.

Well, you asked!

Wildcard
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
Thanks and some responses

>A rare post by me here, but since you solicited a response, I'm tossing my opinion into the mix.

Much appreciated

>You definitely need to work on the cover, I found it unappealing and not quite what I'd expect from a blackjack book. Perhaps a bit more work with the Vegas theme would find a stronger audience of purchasing activity.

I completely agrtee

>What's with the "life" thing? Are you now going to share your life experiences and proceed to tell everyone you've discovered the successful way to live one's life? How does that relate to blackjack?

I haven't yet figured out how to play blackjack while dead, so I assume everyone who reads my book is alive. Given that, they are facing many of the life challenges that are common to humanity. I believe Blackjack offers a lot of lessons that can help guide people to a more successful life.

>I read blackjack books for knowledge about the game, not an informational guide on life.

I guess this book isn't for you then. This is not a book for experts, it is an introduction to the game for the average casino player.

>Seems to me you're mixing apples and oranges, if the book is about blackjack, then stick to your topic, I don't need to read about how you've lived your life.

I never claimed this book was about blackjack. It is about blackjack AND life, and how gaining mastery of the one can help with the other.

>Dump the Ph.D thing on the cover.

More and more, I am starting to agree with this point. The Ph.D. will probabaly go.

>I certainly appreciate and respect your accomplishments, but toot your horn inside the book, not on the cover.

Good idea, probabaly will do exactly this.

>Well, you asked!

And I deeply appreciate your taking the time to answer!

--Mayor
 

eyesfor21

Well-Known Member
cover

looks quite interesting..
I personally like the phd,just make it in smaller font though.
A great enjoyable book I just read is -the zen of gambling..
which does relate to life and gambling..
check it out mayor..you are correct why be like everyone..
for the cover I was thinking a light blue backgound with some
lightning bolts across the middle..and eye opener..shocker cover..
 

Stealth Bomber

Well-Known Member
Fringe benefits from what we do

I believe Blackjack offers a lot of lessons that can help guide people to a more successful life.

BJ and other forms of gambling will destroy some people. However, those of us who gain the proper knowledge, will find that it does just the opposite. Some lessons and subjects I have learned or gained ground in are:

1) Respect for money and how to make every penny work
2) Higher understanding of the value of money
3) Business ventures & how they must run with absolute perfection and accounting
4) Spouse negotiations
5) Patience
6) Staying power
7) Coping with ups and down of life
8) Being tough skinned
9) Negotiations with people on sensitive issues
10) Higher awareness of what makes people tic
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
Excellent

You got it! The point is the gambling has a bad name, but what we do is good and it is character building. We get a bad rap.

Here are the points you mentioned:

1) Respect for money and how to make every penny work
2) Higher understanding of the value of money
3) Business ventures & how they must run with absolute perfection and accounting
4) Spouse negotiations
5) Patience
6) Staying power
7) Coping with ups and down of life
8) Being tough skinned
9) Negotiations with people on sensitive issues
10) Higher awareness of what makes people tic

Out of these, I cover 4,5,6,7,8,9 in the book. I wish I had thought of the others you have here, but I cover some you didn't think about.
 
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