Total Rewards on Table Games

Tree

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I can't seem to get an answer out of the people at Caesar's Windsor (they don't get the formula on hand) in terms of what kind of points you get from playing blackjack rated.

They say that on slots it's 1 point per 5$, and 1 point for 10$ on VP. Table games however depends on odds, average bet, and time played.

Has anyone gone checked their balance after say red chipping for a few hours?
 

WRX

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Tree said:
Has anyone gone checked their balance after say red chipping for a few hours?
Yes. It'll be measured in pennies. Fuhgeddaboutit, you have to play huge to get any respect playing table games at Caesars Ent. places. Although you could conceivably pick up some room offers for slow times.
 

Tree

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I tend to like going at the least busy times, usually odd hours in the morning during the early to mid week when people are supposed to be at work (I work from home so what do I care?)

So the best strat is probably go in and get a TR card and play down a couple hundred on my first day I assume, or so I've read.
 

Thunder

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Tree said:
I tend to like going at the least busy times, usually odd hours in the morning during the early to mid week when people are supposed to be at work (I work from home so what do I care?)

So the best strat is probably go in and get a TR card and play down a couple hundred on my first day I assume, or so I've read.
Figure you'll get about $1/hr for playing at a $10 table.
 

Tree

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Thunder said:
Figure you'll get about $1/hr for playing at a $10 table.
My mistake I meant on slots (as per advice from another thread)

I can't seem to find any evidence that would support playing tables being good for total rewards unless you're playing high stakes, which I won't be for a long time if ever.

On that note, someone please tell the OLG that I'm still waiting on my lotto max win.
 

Shoofly

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Tree said:
I can't seem to find any evidence that would support playing tables being good for total rewards unless you're playing high stakes, which I won't be for a long time if ever.
I have been trying to figure out the comps for Total Rewards, and it is very difficult. You are right about one thing. Low level BJ will get practically nothing. At my local place, they have 9/6 JOB, which is about .5% house edge. They currently have a promotion that offers enough rewards credits to make it about an even game. Sorry, I would share this with everybody, but it is a local, by invitation kind of thing.

The one thing I have heard from a couple of sources, and which I tend to believe, is that their comps are based on one day, or a few days running of high tier totals. If you just play a little BJ on one day and don't have a high tier total on that day, it will negatively affect the comps. I only play VP at this place and leave the BJ tables alone. Their BJ isn't all that good anyway.
 

shadroch

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I'm not sure if this is their regular procedure, but after playing $10 Let it Ride for a few hours, I was surprised to find out the pit gave me credit for the entire $30 starting bet, even though you pull back $20 almost every hand.
 

FLASH1296

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I have found that, in practice, the younger, less experienced, stupider, and lazier floor-persons
will record your average bet as nearer your mid-range than your mean, median or modal wager.

For comp' purposes I always make my opening wagers in any session far more than is justified, unless
I know, from prior experience, that the particular floor person recording my action is fairly accurate.
 

kewljason

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FLASH1296 said:

I have found that, in practice, the younger, less experienced, stupider, and lazier floor-persons
will record your average bet as nearer your mid-range than your mean, median or modal wager.

For comp' purposes I always make my opening wagers in any session far more than is justified, unless
I know, from prior experience, that the particular floor person recording my action is fairly accurate.
Flash, can I ask how you know what they are recording? I have heard others mention this as well. I know you can ask for that info, but to my way of thinking, that alerts them that you are a regular player familiar with with the comp scoring prodecure. If you are that much of a regular and knowledgeable player it isn't a stretch for them to think you are a somewhat skilled players as well. If not advantage player, at minimum good basic startagy player in which case they rate you lower. I don't want to steer them towards any of these thoughts. Am I wrong in my thinking?
 

FLASH1296

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This is simple enough.

When you leave a table, request that you be "closed out", adding that you need to go get some grub and may need the points.

Wait a bit and then go check your points total using a player's card kiosk, or asking at the counter of the Player's Club, or asking at a retail outfit.

I swipe at least once, but more often, several times daily.

 

kewljason

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FLASH1296 said:

This is simple enough.

When you leave a table, request that you be "closed out", adding that you need to go get some grub and may need the points.

Wait a bit and then go check your points total using a player's card kiosk, or asking at the counter of the Player's Club, or asking at a retail outfit.

I swipe at least once, but more often, several times daily.

yeah, that's one of the strange and disadvantageous things about Vegas. They don't use or have Kiosks like back east and other places. Wonder what that's about? :confused:
 

Dyepaintball12

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Caesars puts your "average" bet in as the average of your lowest and highest bet placed over your time at the table (that the PB enters into the comp). This was explained to me and a friend after we played for 10+ hours at a Caesars Casino and spread from $10 to 2x$300. Our "average bet" according to the Pit Boss was around $300.

KJ - I asked the lady at Harrahs LV about them not having Kiosks and she just said "Well I'm glad we don't have them because a lot of us would be out of a job." So I left it at that... :laugh:
 

bigplayer

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Tree said:
I can't seem to get an answer out of the people at Caesar's Windsor (they don't get the formula on hand) in terms of what kind of points you get from playing blackjack rated.

They say that on slots it's 1 point per 5$, and 1 point for 10$ on VP. Table games however depends on odds, average bet, and time played.

Has anyone gone checked their balance after say red chipping for a few hours?
Expect 2x your avg bet per hour in base RC's plus another 1x to 2x that in bonus points depending on your skill rating, actual result, and how long you played. (There is some variance by property but this is what my experience has shown)

So if you flat bet $200 you get 400 base points per hour plus another 400 bonus points per hour.
 
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