Trip Report (kind of long)

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john

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hey, got back from my trip tonight.

Good news. I made 92 green units in 4 days. Well, the fourth day, I didn't play much.

Actually, after the first two days, I was up 4,638 dollars. I was walking on air. I felt invincible. Then I crashed a little. The whole way I played absolutely the same way but just the last 2 days of my trip, I got different results.

On day 3, I lost 2400 dollars in about 3 hours. Keep in mind, I used to make 200 dollars a week !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got in another argument with an Asian person. This time it was a guy. Not sure why the guy was picking on me but it might be because I look like I'm only 20 years old.

I approach this table and pull out 600 dollars. Ploppies scream "NO" !!!!!!!!!!! Hey, I don't even ask anymore, I just sit down. I was a gentlemen, though and waited for the shuffle. The asian guy next to me tells me that he wants to trade me seats. I say "okay". Then I joke about how I hope he isn't jinxing me. I start playing and then guy keeps mumbling things about doubling 12 v 10 's and other wierd things. I ignore it and play the way I always play. He just keeps saying stuff and basically blames me when the dealer gets 21. Nearly every hand, he was mumbling something. He looked like he was from Vietnam or Cambodia. I used to date a Japanese girl so I can tell Chinese, Japanese, and other ethnicities apart very well. Finally, I told him "I'm going to play my hand the way I want. I know you are trying to tell me how to play it but its not going to work." He shut up for 5 minutes then went back to it. I would have liked to have made a fortune in front of him but lost 1400. I can say, intelligently, that he was not the reason I lost money. I do think that if he lost 1400, he would have blamed me for it. I really think all of this behavior came down to ego. That is the first time anyone has ever wanted to trade seats with me. The crazy thing about it is he had no chair so now I have no chair to sit on. I have to go to another table to get a chair.

Summary
Day 1 ---- +73 units
Day 2 ---- +112 units
Day 3 ---- - 96 units
Day 4 ---- +5 units
== 94 units then subtract 2 units for food

I'm trying to keep accurate records of what happened where and the date.

Anyway, after losing 2400 dollars on day 3, I went back to the motel and watched "28 days later" or something. It was a scarey movie, and it was very good. Day 4, I was determined not to go home on a losing streak so I stopped in at another one and made 5 units. (I know about the "it doesn't matter when you stop" thing)

All in all, things are going great. I'm averaging +90 units a week so far.

What do you say to the question: Are you counting? (from a dealer) I thought about it, and haven't come up with anything spectacular. This happened by the way. Nothing came of it. I won't elaborate anymore. I didn't get the tap or shuffled up on the whole trip. Just an awkward moment that went nowhere. One pit boss welcomed me to come back to the casino. He said that I was welcome to play there 2 or 3 times a week if I like. He said this after a 68 unit win.
 
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learning to count

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PLOPPIES CAN BE A$$HOLES. WHAT EVER RACE CREED OR NATIONALITY! SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT TRIP. LOVED YOUR REPORT.

AS FAR AS THE DEALER AND THE PIT BOSS I WOULD STAY AWAY FOR A FEW WEEKS AND OR PLAY DIFFEREMT SHIFTS. KEEP IT SHORT AND DONT BURN OUT THAT VENUE ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE DEALING A GOOD GAME!

ROB'S RETORT WAS VERY GOOD. I PLAN TO USE IT MYSELF.

THIS IS THE TYPE OF REPORTS WE NEED HERE STRAIGHT FROM THE TRENCHES! AS FAR AS THE PLOPPY; IF ITS A GOOD GAME IGNORE HIM.

PLAY THE VICTIM WHEN IT GETS BAD. IF THE GAME STARTS TO SUCK CALL THE PIT CRITTER AND ASK FOR RELIEF/HELP. BE NICE AND GET PITY FROM THE DEALER AND OTHER PLAYERS. THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO DROP A TIP TO THE DEALER.

I NEVER TIP BUT ONE TIME ON A CRUISE AT A LUCRATIVE GAME I TIPPED TEN BUCKS. I DID THIS BECAUSE THE A$$HOLE WAS A BIG DISTURBANCE TO ME AND THE TABLE AND I BEFRIENDED THE DELAER THIS WAY. THE DISTURBANCE ESCALATED AND I GOT MY CHANCE SO I CALLED THE PC OVER AND VOICED MY CONCERN ABOUT THIS JERS OBVIOUS RUDE AND THREATONING BEHAVIOR. HE WAS SOUNDLY THROWN OUT AND I EXTENEDED MY PLAY FOR SEVERAL HOURS WITHOUT WORRY OF COUNTER SUSPICION. THIS IS ABOUT THE ONLY TIME I WILL TIP.
 
Dog Hand

Dog Hand

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Counting the cards?

John,

On an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, Data, Riker, and Worf are trapped in a casino. Data sits down at a BJ table and begins to play. After a few minutes, one of the other patrons asks him, "Are you counting the cards?" Data replies, "What would be the point? The number of cards does not vary."

You could always try that line, but it might only work if you have yellow contact lenses and gold face paint! ;-)

Dog Hand
 
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Cyrano

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Question... if you were driving down the freeway, and suddenly a cop pulls you over and says "Looks like you were speeding.." would you reply "No, I wasn't taking any drugs..." ?? Probably not, right since you'd probably piss him off and throw away any chance to get off easy. You're pretty sure he's pretty sure you're a counter...

At that level, what's wrong with telling the truth? Just say something like "yeah, I bought this book ______, and decided to try it as a hobby... this is actually my second trip out but looks like it's not working though because i'm down for my 2 trips XXX amount..." if you're feeling a little devilish and want to continue the charade, you might want to say something like "does this shit really work? seems to me that if the authors really have a cash-cow, why would they publish it?"

This like actually got me a little sympathy a couple times. Then again, I play reds... I don't know if I'd use that line with greens (i'd probably use this line at megaresorts) and definitely not for blacks.

In any case, I don't think I'd use witty quips because they've probably heard it all before and will probably get annoyed (wouldn't you if you asked a serious question and felt that someone was trying to toy with you?).
 
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john

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Re: I Would Never Admit to Reading any Books on BJ

The dealer wasn't completely serious about it. She asked me in the way that a girlfriend would ask you if you are checking out another girl.
 
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john

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players cards

Do most of you refuse players cards ? I've gotten some negative reactions when I tell them no. Some will totally give me the "20 questions" after I refuse one. They usually give me the "20 questions" when I am betting big. Actually, I should have asked this earlier since this is such a common problem for me. I've got some great excuses for this but sometimes the pit boss tries to bully me and then walk away and I am left unable to defend. On the computer at these places, am I "unknown 957394" or what? Is that how they do it? Maybe I need to buy Blackjack Attack.
 
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Stealth Bomber

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Re: players cards

The only decent excuse I can come up with is that; I have this little problem with gambling too much + my wife doesn't know I'm hear. I'm afraid if I get a card, she'll find out what I do when she's not watching me. (pause) This time though... I feel I'm going to have some good luck finally and beat you guys into submission. (along with raised eyebrows and a forced smile)
 
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gehrig

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various player rating devices include...

"i.d. refused" tags. better is that one should "play" that player evaluation sub-game as but another aspect of the greater, 21 game. just as there are multi-dimensional aspects to the house's play of the game, so must there be at the player level. the house uses several levels of supervision, of varying degrees of skill, occasionally software aids, and usually outsourced databases. the player's tools must be more than rote card counting with some predictable linkage to the "count". those who mechanically, predictably orchestrate wagers, and make obvious strategy variations based on a (at least, plus-minus) count, without an excellent act, are merely fodder for the game protection apparat. today's continuing player must play as though his game is center screen hawked by surveillance, and as though his player evaluation (and/or, player tracking) records are frequently examined. one player gets 86'd; the other gets some measure of comps.
 
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