Trip Report - Las Vegas

Kaiser

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*warning - didn't realize how friggin' long this was until I posted it*



It wasn't your average AP outing; I think the strippers, $400 bottles of Crown Royal, prostitutes, cash and cell phone thefts, innocent bystanders being squirted with soy sauce, and the enjoymnent of 6-5 blackjack kind of make it stand out. OK, it's not as good as it sounds, but it was the stag (bachelor party for you americans) trip I was on last weekend and thought I'd jot down a few memorable blackjack moments for the hell of it.

First off, when did they double the size of the airport and quadruple the number of people using it? My god. I wasn't expecting it to be that busy at 12:30am on a Friday night. (well, technically Saturday morning) We weren't looking forward to trying to get 3 cabs to haul 13 of us to the Imperial Palace, considering the fact that I could count cards like lightning but wouldn't even attempt to count the number of people in that damn lineup. Luckily for us someone came up to us and offered us a ride in a stretch Hummer limo for $10 a head. Seemed worth it to avoid a who-knows-how-long wait for a cab. We had just finished drinking all the rye on the plane and using up all the ice they had on a (connection) flight from Denver, so patience wasn't really our strong suit at that point.

We finally got checked into our rooms and ready to head downstairs at 2:00am. Pretty late start to the 3 day trip, but we averaged about 2 1/2 hours of sleep a night, so I like to think we fit about 5-6 regular days worth of stuff into the trip. Actually it's kind of weird, it seems like it was a fast weekend because it was almost like one really long day with a couple of quick naps thrown in there. We usually slept from about 5am to 7-8am. Yay for RedBull and believing in the whole pumped-in-oxygen thing.

Of course I'd been getting in a lot of counting work the past several weeks, and had things pretty much down pat. I had a decent bankroll, even if it was partially funded with my credit line. I know, I know, but I don't plan on going back within a year or two so I was fully prepared to drop the whole thing and spreading the payback over 5-6 months if things went bad enough. Played $5 tables if I could find them, which meant I mostly hit $10 tables with the odd guess-I-have-to $15 one thrown in.

First session. Fresh mind, lots of excitement, wad of fresh hundreds in my pocket. Let's make some money! Err... let's lose 20 units in 15 minutes. Damn. Oh well, the next casino will be better, I'm friggin' good at this stuff, it's got to work. D'oh! Another $200 in the toilet. The damn shoes are killing me. Winning small bets at low counts, losing pretty much all the medium and big bets at good counts. My buddies look at me with puzzled expressions. Uh, dude, I thought you were like, counting the cards? Shouldn't you be getting carried out of here and then buying us all hookers or something by now?

BTW, my *god* is the Imperial Palace a shithole. The rooms are almost as bad as the blackjack tables. They have 6 single deck tables in a circle as you enter the place, all 6:5 of course. The dealers have to wear these ridiculous black suits with crooked hats. They also have a row of tables at the back with dealers dressed up like famous stars, dealt from a CSM and all 6:5. No thanks. The only thing these things were good for was a chuckle at the Stevie Wonder table that had the dealer's "John as Stevie Wonder" sign stuck in the slot upside down.

The first night was fun except for the blackjack. Finished the night off with a McDonalds bedtime snack and slept from 5am to 8am. A quick trip the amazingly bland buffet and we were headed downtown for some real tables. (oh god I'll regret that buffet in 8 hours)

So I'm with my best friend and his dad, and the poor guy can't walk too far in one shot, so we kind of get roped into going into the first place we come up to, the Four Queens. Ended up being pretty good though, and we spent quite a while there. We sat down at a handheld double deck game and played for a few hours. Went up and down, got myself very good at counting a pitch game, and drank way too many free crown & cokes. We had a really nice pregnant cocktail waitress, and a couple of $5 tips for 2 drinks had her attention. You'd think we were dropping fifties on her. She was back with another drink before we were finished the one we had. Not so great for the counting, but it made for a fun afternoon. I can't remember how I did here, only that we all had fun, drank a ton of free booze, and all left with more than we walked in with. The highlight was once at third base when I was having a little trouble counting a lot of doubles and splits, because the count was right around a couple of index numbers I was trying to recall, then the waitress is there, I'm trying to look at the table while I have my arm out waiting for her to take my drink, then while I'm doing this the dealer points to my two face down cards to ask what I'm doing. I wave him off, thinking "jesus man, they're face down under my chips, grab a friggin' brain". He has a 19 and flips my cards up. I stood on a 5-4. Oh yes, the table loved me. Some of them even called out to our lord saviour, jesus christ, to express this love. I convinced myself that this was a wonderful cover play.

Did you know that they charge $460 for a bottle of Crown at Seamless? 5 of us showed up there at 9pm to find out that the guys who had been there since 3pm had bought bottles for $460, $350, and $250 already. After a fourth bottle at $250 we managed to smarten the boys up and switched to beer. It got us a nice big area to ourselves and quite a few *ahem* ladies to visit with, but wow. Just wow. I matched my first day losses in money spent at this place, and went home with my tail between my legs. The appendage in front was *not* hanging, however. We had a couple of guys in the group drop $1500 and $2000 there that night.

FYI, you should not walk around and flirt with hookers you meet on the strip, nor should you get into a car with the pimp and cruise around looking for something to do. You will wind up so drunk (or drugged) that you wake up in your hotel room with not much memory of how you got there, and that whole $700 you had in your pocket missing. Trust me, there is a guy in our group (first night ever in Vegas) who now knows this all too well. You also want to avoid taking your expensive Blackberry into a club if you can help it. You'll notice it missing after two guys bump into you. Ouch. Most of our group were first timers, and there were lessons galore being learned.

More McDonalds and more rye, a sleep from 5am to 7:30am, and it's time to head back downtown for some *real* gambling. EsCortez, here I come baby.

We step out from under the curtain of the Fremont Street experience. "Are you sure this is safe?" I hear from behind me. It's funny how quickly the decor changes in one block.

The ElCortez is actually surprisingly nice inside. Nicer than I expected it to be. It is not busy at all, with maybe 2 blackjack tables having players at them. Every other table is manned by a dealer staring at a wall. We stroll around and find a nice low table with regular chairs at the end of the pit with a $3 minumum. Perfect. I'll be able to have a good spread and maybe win that $20 with my buddy. I bet him I could get kicked out for counting, with the rule that I can't actually say anything about counting.

I'm spreading 1-8 ($5 to $40) with the KISS III count, and only using a few indexes. I went to $50 on a few choice counts too. The dealer is new and not very fast, and the counting is so easy. I order a beer and slam it, get another, and start to rub my eyes. I can hold my beer really well and thought maybe I'd pretend to be drunk for a while. My trips to the bathroom are slow and deliberate, and there's lots more eye rubbing. I probably convinced my buddy and his dad that I was really drunk. Damn I'm a good actor.

It's a double deck game from a shoe (cool, never seen that before). I turn a $100 buy-in into $420 in about 5 shoes. I'm leaning back, putting sunglasses on and off, ordering a third beer, and acting drunk. I probably just look like an idiot but we're chuckling and having fun.

We were getting a lot of attention from the female pitboss. She was walking over and watching the table every few minutes it seemed. I had my glasses set so I could see the cards really easy but spent a lot of time watching the pit crew through the dark shades so they couldn't tell I was. Definitely watching us, talking about us, and coming over to get a closer look pretty often.

We were soooo obvious about it, too. We'd all be betting $5 (or I'd bet $3 while the others bet $5) to start, and when the count warranted, all three of us would shove out $30 or $40. And I guess they can't just shuffle on you when they're using a shoe, but after a while they started changing dealers on us quite a bit. The count would get hot after 3 or 4 rounds, we'd shove out a 4 unit bet, and miraculously we got a new dealer who would empty the shoe and here comes the shuffle (actually I think it was auto-shuffled cards she grabbed from the side). Naturally we all pull our money back and put out $5. Once this happened while the pit lady was watching, and I get a blackjack on my first hand of the shoe. "Oh, you only have $5 out now, too bad!" says the lady. I consider telling her "the count is only like 15" but don't, knowing it voids my bet with my friend. I just say "I know, I can't guess right!" or something stupid like that. We're all trying not to laugh.

The highlight of this session was too much. I almost spit my beer out trying not to laugh. I couldn't, and actually laughed outloud for a few seconds and high-fived my friend. The count shoots up like crazy. We all get 3, 4, or 5 card hands, dealer included, with every card a low one. I go from a $3 bet to $50. Both other guys go from $5 to $50. I'm trying not to laugh. My buddy knees me in the leg and I look over. He's trying not to laugh, or not to piss his pants, I can't tell which. Dealer turns her head and says "CHECKS PLAY". There are lots of eyes on us. We're the only ones at the table. Friend's dad on my right gets an 11, I get a blackjack, and my buddy on the left gets a pair of aces. Dealer had a 10. His dad doubles the 11 and gets a 10, after I tell him he has to, and the aces get split, each receiving a king. Dealer gets another 10 for a 20.

I actually burst out laughing. Then the other two do. High-fives all around. But damn, now the count is back down. Back to $5 bets for us. My god. This is working so well, we're having so much fun, and godDAMN this is an easy game.

Oh, I also made out like a bandit on insurance. There were so many times the dealer had ace in a low count and we didn’t take insurance… then in the next five minutes there were 4 times that it came up, and we were right on 3 of them. The first time we had $50 bets out and I took insurance, the other guys forgot what I had told them and didn’t take it. Dealer had blackjack so I said something stupid like “dude, insurance only works if everyone at the table takes it”. It came up again before the end of the shoe with big bets out, and this time we all took it – and it worked.

Now I don’t know if they’re just easier on double deck games or if my drunk-and-getting-drunker routine actually worked, but I thought for sure they were going to ask us to leave, and they never did. I couldn’t believe it. So El Cortez, thank you very much for the $400. I really appreciate the easy going pit crew, free beer, and inexperienced dealers who twice forgot to take our money away when we lost our hands. Cheers!

Have you ever had a girl try to give you a hummer through your jeans? Um, yeah, lap dances in Vegas are just a tad different than the ones in Canada. *Blush *

So we stop at some casino while in our stretch hummer limo on the way to another gentleman’s club. The boys run in to the liquor store there to buy some booze and I run in to a $5 double deck game with a $40 buy-in. Talk about a hit and run. Play a few hands at $5, then all-in with $50, win, $50 again, win, shuffle. A little ways into the second set I make a few big bets again, not worrying about cover at all. Lose a couple big ones at the end, but walk out with $80 profit for maybe 8 minutes of play. This game is cool.

I got a stripper’s e-mail address. Not sure if she actually wants to go out with me next time I’m there like she says, or if she’s going to try to milk some money out of me. Interesting time, though.

Twice I had short, fun sessions heads-up at a single deck game in the Imperial Palace on a 6:5 table. The first was about 30 minutes where I made a couple hundred bucks. The last was while my buddies were standing at the front door waiting for our ride to the airport. I thought what the hell, I’m going to spread like a madman and if I get kicked out, who cares. I spread from 1-10, never employing even the slightest cover. Bets were up and down like crazy. I got heat almost immediately, with the pit boss making trips to the table every minute or so. It’s a crappy little ring of 6 or 7 tables, all single deck 6:5, so there isn’t far for the PB to go. After a few ridiculous spikes in my bets, and going immediately back to $5 on the shuffle, the guy parks himself at the table. After the second round I spike up to a 10 unit bet, and he reaches into the discard tray, moves some cards, and the dealer shuffles. I look the guy in the eye and just smile, pulling my money back and shoving out $5 again. I was pretty much asking to be barred and he wouldn’t bite. After another round he left the table and I took advantage of a good count again. Only left with $50 as some big bets didn’t fall my way, but it was fun as hell. I also didn’t get any blackjacks so I convinced myself it was just like playing a 3:2 table. I was also kind of drunk so it didn’t take a lot of convincing.

Anyway, that’s it for my first (and probably last for a good long while) trip report. I probably left out a lot of blackjack stuff that wasn’t that memorable, and I absolutely left out a lot that was (but didn’t have anything to do with blackjack). Vegas is one hell of a city. I ended up making about $600-700, which is a pretty nice haul for me. I spent most of that on, uh, other stuff there though. Not that I'm complaining. :)
 
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ChefJJ

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You're my hero! :joker:

Seriously though...that's what Vegas is all about. I love blackjack and definitely love winning, but cutting loose like that is the real reason to go to Vegas. Balls deep baby!

good luck
 

EasyRhino

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I'm not so crazy about 4Q's doubledeck game, because they don't even allow DAS.

I'm also surprised all to hell that Escortez didn't do something more when the entire table was counting at once. Just to make sure I'm clear, they'd swap dealers, which would force a premature shoe shuffle? Because if they were just changing dealers without shuffling, that would just be old-school PC ploppy voodoo.

Then again, I think in the context of the trip, it didn't really matter. :) Did you go to any other good clubs?
 

Kaiser

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No, they took the remaining cards out of the shoe and replaced them when they changed dealers. Bastards. :laugh:

Played a bit at the Monte Carlo, but it was really uneventful. It was about 4am and I was alone. My buddy was passed out in the room after blowing almost $1500 at Seamless.

I was on that end of the strip to get a bite to eat at Fat Burger, and I got to witness a nice little 4 car pileup right in front of there. I think I pretty much broke even at a 6 deck table after playing maybe 45 minutes. The dealer didn't say a word and she had this wicked open sore on her mouth that I couldn't help stare at. Got a bad vibe from the place and left.

As for *other* clubs, the Spearmint Rhino was very, very nice. Easy to spend money there but pretty damn cool. :grin:
 

biggamejames

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Kaiser said:
As for *other* clubs, the Spearmint Rhino was very, very nice. Easy to spend money there but pretty damn cool. :grin:
Let me guess, the limo driver is the one who suggested you go to spearmint and yet another suggested Seamless.....right?:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Not bad places mind you. But i have been to both of them enough that i no longer see the fascination in them and i would like to kick a limo driver in the nuts to make up for every time they convinced my buddies who rarely visiti sin city to go to one of those places while i was the only one suggesting we try out another spot..

Even after i tell my buddies that limo drivers and taxi drivers are paid to take people to those places they still wanna go there!:whip:
 

chichow

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so what other place would you suggest? given that Spear Rhino is like a Pure Platinum high end but maybe vanilla place
 

biggamejames

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chichow said:
so what other place would you suggest? given that Spear Rhino is like a Pure Platinum high end but maybe vanilla place

thats my problem. I have never been to a club not recommended by a limo driver. They always trump my buddies with free drink cards even free table dance cards and b/s like that.

Spear alright but its a friggin tourist trap that gets tired really fast. Scores does nothing for me.

I kinda like seamless to tell the truth but that has more to do with the relaxed atmosphere and the girls working there. they are real pros in my opinion compared to the greedy little sows at spear that cant even give a decent lap dance. (yes yes i know they have 300 plus girls but i cant stand spearmint because its too friggin small and is always ridiculously over crowded.)
 

Kaiser

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Yeah, I know the drill with limo and cab drivers. We actually rented this Hummer limo for the night and had our choice of 5 places where there would be no cover.

Funny thing about our first stop (at Seamless). This was before the limo night, and most of the guys went there in a cab. They had to pay a $30 cover to get in. When we took our cab there the driver told us about the cover too, and we figured we'd have to pay it, but the guy at the front told us he only needed our IDs and there'd be no cover. OK, so we show him our ID and get in (even the 55 year old dad in the group got "carded" :laugh: ).

5 minutes later the driver comes running into the club. "How much you pay to get in here?!" We tell him there was no cover charge and he pretty much loses it. Asks us a few more times are we sure we didn't pay anything, etc. Then he takes off up front again. He probably thought the club was stiffing him out of his "bounty".

Oh, and I also got the lapdance of my life at the Rhino, but the little back areas they have are **** compared to Seamless.

The funniest moment at Seamless was one naive guy in the group proclaming at about midnight (and after the group as a whole had probably dropped 4 grand) "You know what, I don't think these girls actually really like us. I think they just want our money."

:laugh:
 

bluewhale

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Kaiser said:
Yeah, I know the drill with limo and cab drivers. We actually rented this Hummer limo for the night and had our choice of 5 places where there would be no cover.

Funny thing about our first stop (at Seamless). This was before the limo night, and most of the guys went there in a cab. They had to pay a $30 cover to get in. When we took our cab there the driver told us about the cover too, and we figured we'd have to pay it, but the guy at the front told us he only needed our IDs and there'd be no cover. OK, so we show him our ID and get in (even the 55 year old dad in the group got "carded" :laugh: ).

5 minutes later the driver comes running into the club. "How much you pay to get in here?!" We tell him there was no cover charge and he pretty much loses it. Asks us a few more times are we sure we didn't pay anything, etc. Then he takes off up front again. He probably thought the club was stiffing him out of his "bounty".

Oh, and I also got the lapdance of my life at the Rhino, but the little back areas they have are **** compared to Seamless.

The funniest moment at Seamless was one naive guy in the group proclaming at about midnight (and after the group as a whole had probably dropped 4 grand) "You know what, I don't think these girls actually really like us. I think they just want our money."

:laugh:
what the hell? 4 grand? thats insane! seriously though, how do you spend 4 grand in one night? i hope you got a BS or something man, cause thats freakin insane. how many were part of ur grp?
 
Kaiser said:
Yeah, I know the drill with limo and cab drivers. We actually rented this Hummer limo for the night and had our choice of 5 places where there would be no cover.

Funny thing about our first stop (at Seamless). This was before the limo night, and most of the guys went there in a cab. They had to pay a $30 cover to get in. When we took our cab there the driver told us about the cover too, and we figured we'd have to pay it, but the guy at the front told us he only needed our IDs and there'd be no cover. OK, so we show him our ID and get in (even the 55 year old dad in the group got "carded" :laugh: ).

5 minutes later the driver comes running into the club. "How much you pay to get in here?!" We tell him there was no cover charge and he pretty much loses it. Asks us a few more times are we sure we didn't pay anything, etc. Then he takes off up front again. He probably thought the club was stiffing him out of his "bounty".

Oh, and I also got the lapdance of my life at the Rhino, but the little back areas they have are **** compared to Seamless.

The funniest moment at Seamless was one naive guy in the group proclaming at about midnight (and after the group as a whole had probably dropped 4 grand) "You know what, I don't think these girls actually really like us. I think they just want our money."

:laugh:
Well I've got to tell you, being from the Northeast my standards for strip clubs are pretty high. The first place I ever went to when I was 16 was this place called Buff's. It was so dirty there wasn't even a door on the bathroom. The girls worked right on top of the bar, and when you sat down the first thing you noticed was the bar was wet. Spilled beer, right? Uh, no.

You pay the girl, you could do literally anything you wanted, right at the bar. And as she came down your way, she'd take your beer bottle and make it disappear. Then you were expected to drink out of the bottle, which I did without hesitation. The black girls did it with 40's. This was my first really thorough inspection of the wonders of female anatomy.

Around here now there were a lot of Latin American style clubs which are also hardcore but very friendly. You can breed a stripper right on the barstool if you want. It's a pretty funny thing to see, it looks like a lap dance, but with a little added detail. If you are Anglo the girls love you and the guys are OK too just don't insult or otherwise get into trouble with anyone. I saw this white guy who didn't realize where he was and calling a couple of the girls fat slobs, I went over and told him look man, you don't know who her friends and relatives are in here and I don't want to see anybody get stabbed tonight, so shut up. He got the message.

So are there any clubs in LV of this nature?
 

Kaiser

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bluewhale said:
what the hell? 4 grand? thats insane! seriously though, how do you spend 4 grand in one night? i hope you got a BS or something man, cause thats freakin insane. how many were part of ur grp?
There were 13 of us. One guy spent 2 grand and another spent $1500. Come to think of it, 4 grand is probably a pretty low estimate. :grin:
 
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