We have to tell the man our name ...
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Abraham de Moivre
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Here is the list.
Justices were told that 20 states have similar laws to the Nevada statute upheld by the high court:
Alabama, Arkansas, California, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, and Wisconsin.
Oh, And I hope your quiz asking if you have to show a LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL your ID when requested is corrected.
Justices were told that 20 states have similar laws to the Nevada statute upheld by the high court:
Alabama, Arkansas, California, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, and Wisconsin.
Oh, And I hope your quiz asking if you have to show a LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL your ID when requested is corrected.
mebbe not to the private, casino security staff.
but since nevada gaming regs permit that private force to detain, for a "reasonable" time, a "suspect" until summoning police ("metro" in clark county), likely that i.d. would (now if not previously) have to be furnished. this could be interesting for those who would carry false identity documents. on the face of it, there aren't too many legitimate reasons for maintaining alternative (non legally changed), i.d./paperwork. perhaps the more innocent might be to hide from creditors, process servers, or ex-wives' attornies/gubbmit authorities bent on capturing delinquent child support or alimony.
as to justification, my ken is that the greater good of protecting the u.s. citizens from infiltration by terrorists planning on serious acts, will override the "sovereign citizen" agenda. it's amusing to me that the leftist agenda is seeking mileage from that "9-11 committee" while they have some record of resisting any infringement of citizens' rights insofar as this, i.d. issue pertains. can't have it both ways. of course, that same leftist agenda would have the borders "opened".
could be that the "advantage" player might better carry zero i.d., rather than something false. i'd think that using false i.d. even only to gain a freebie barfet, could constitute some fraud. i'm known under different names in different joints, but never the result of any paper documentation.
but since nevada gaming regs permit that private force to detain, for a "reasonable" time, a "suspect" until summoning police ("metro" in clark county), likely that i.d. would (now if not previously) have to be furnished. this could be interesting for those who would carry false identity documents. on the face of it, there aren't too many legitimate reasons for maintaining alternative (non legally changed), i.d./paperwork. perhaps the more innocent might be to hide from creditors, process servers, or ex-wives' attornies/gubbmit authorities bent on capturing delinquent child support or alimony.
as to justification, my ken is that the greater good of protecting the u.s. citizens from infiltration by terrorists planning on serious acts, will override the "sovereign citizen" agenda. it's amusing to me that the leftist agenda is seeking mileage from that "9-11 committee" while they have some record of resisting any infringement of citizens' rights insofar as this, i.d. issue pertains. can't have it both ways. of course, that same leftist agenda would have the borders "opened".
could be that the "advantage" player might better carry zero i.d., rather than something false. i'd think that using false i.d. even only to gain a freebie barfet, could constitute some fraud. i'm known under different names in different joints, but never the result of any paper documentation.
zengrifter
Banned
Like the song says ...
... "This is NOT America!" zg
... "This is NOT America!" zg
LV Bear
Administrator
Terrible ruling
I wonder if this will have any effect on our rights in casinos?
Casino managers can now call their corrupt friends in Gaming to come and ID someone under threat of arrest.
A truly horrible decision, with implications far beyond our little corner of the casino world. A sad day for our country.
I wonder if this will have any effect on our rights in casinos?
Casino managers can now call their corrupt friends in Gaming to come and ID someone under threat of arrest.
A truly horrible decision, with implications far beyond our little corner of the casino world. A sad day for our country.
Abraham de Moivre
Well-Known Member
It gets worse.
Post 9/11 false identification is a major no-no. All those terrorists had false IDs, remember? The first person arrested after 9/11 was the guy in Virgina (non-terrorist, just a scum bag) who supplied them with the IDs.
Not having an ID at all is an even bigger no-no. At that point the police can take you and hold you until they can identify you. Who knows? You might be one of the missing hijackers.
Post 9/11 false identification is a major no-no. All those terrorists had false IDs, remember? The first person arrested after 9/11 was the guy in Virgina (non-terrorist, just a scum bag) who supplied them with the IDs.
Not having an ID at all is an even bigger no-no. At that point the police can take you and hold you until they can identify you. Who knows? You might be one of the missing hijackers.
Automatic Monkey
Banned
The problem with casinos...
...is that it is unlawful to be in them if you are under a certain age and asking for ID is part of making sure you are in compliance with that law. It's not like walking down the street, which is something that anyone has the right to do. This is especially applicable to the younger guys here because if you are seen placing a wager or with a drink in your hand and you fail to show ID when asked, you can (and probably will) be arrested on suspicion of underage drinking or gambling and they will be completely within their rights.
...is that it is unlawful to be in them if you are under a certain age and asking for ID is part of making sure you are in compliance with that law. It's not like walking down the street, which is something that anyone has the right to do. This is especially applicable to the younger guys here because if you are seen placing a wager or with a drink in your hand and you fail to show ID when asked, you can (and probably will) be arrested on suspicion of underage drinking or gambling and they will be completely within their rights.