Weekend in AC

aslan

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Took a trip up to AC this weekend. Played 6-deck about 26 hours overall using KO. Won $1,300. Lost $370 playing craps, $25 playing slots. Not too many positive counts the first day, and experienced losses during positive counts. Down $500 four times and came back at last to about $400 winner--tough grind for about 18 hours. Next day, pen started off terrible, but got better, especially after a lady called the dealer down on the lousy pen. I wouldn't have the nerve since it is almost like admitting to counting. But I chimed in, "Yea, don't cut so much out because all the aces might be in the cards you're cutting out." An obviously moronic statement that nevertheless added to the perception that the players were upset with the pen. Remarkably, after that we had good pen all day and night. Got some really good positive counts and left with $900. All in all, a very good weekend. Looking forward to next week.
 

zengrifter

Banned
aslan said:
Took a trip up to AC this weekend. Played 6-deck about 26 hours overall using KO. Won $1,300. Lost $370 playing craps
Craps? Looks like a serious leak in your casino repetoire. zg
 

aslan

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zengrifter said:
Craps? Looks like a serious leak in your casino repetoire. zg
Well, I am reading Wong on Craps and I just wanted to get a feel for the distance and loft of the dice on a real crap table. I bet the pass line with odds and two come bets with odds and ate up $370 in minutes. I won't be doing that again without a reasonable expectation of dice control, you can be sure of that.
 

rdorange

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Craps

aslan said:
Well, I am reading Wong on Craps and I just wanted to get a feel for the distance and loft of the dice on a real crap table. I bet the pass line with odds and two come bets with odds and ate up $370 in minutes. I won't be doing that again without a reasonable expectation of dice control, you can be sure of that.
Way too soon!
 

Preston

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aslan said:
Well, I am reading Wong on Craps and I just wanted to get a feel for the distance and loft of the dice on a real crap table. I bet the pass line with odds and two come bets with odds and ate up $370 in minutes. I won't be doing that again without a reasonable expectation of dice control, you can be sure of that.
Were you the shooter when you took the huge dump?

I always bet heavier on myself when at the craps table. If you are at least attempting dice control you are at least setting the dice. And therefore it isn't as random as a typical shooter who has to get lucky.
 

aslan

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Preston said:
Were you the shooter when you took the huge dump?

I always bet heavier on myself when at the craps table. If you are at least attempting dice control you are at least setting the dice. And therefore it isn't as random as a typical shooter who has to get lucky.
I was shooting some of the time, but believe me, I am not even close to where I need to be. It was a lark, ill-advised at best. BTW, I wouldn't characterize $370 as a big dump, but I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder.

I do think with what I experienced that it is absolutely within the realm of plausibility that one can influence the dice with a throw to the felt and a small bounce off the pyramids. There was no pushback or even disapproving looks by the crap team regarding my deliberate setting of the dice and facsimile of an educated throw. The other players seemed like they must practice to appear like they know what they're doing, but I can easily see by the trajectory of their tosses that they don't have a clue about dice control. I'm not saying that dice control is possible, but it will be an enjoyable project proving it one way or the other. It's always better to have more than one advantaged play IMO.
 
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rdorange

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Part of practice

aslan said:
I was shooting some of the time, but believe me, I am not even close to where I need to be. It was a lark, ill-advised at best.
After you know what your tendencies are from recorded practice, you will be able to take advantage of knowing how to bet on your roll. Until then, there is no way to know and no advantage to be gained.
 

aslan

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rdorange said:
After you know what your tendencies are from recorded practice, you will be able to take advantage of knowing how to bet on your roll. Until then, there is no way to know and no advantage to be gained.
Thanks for the timely advice. I'll keep it in mind.
 
zengrifter said:
Craps? Looks like a serious leak in your casino repetoire. zg
see, i knew i wasnt the only one who thot craps was an almost unbeatable game.. chefjj seems to prefer craps over blackjack, and i dont know how in the hell you can get a 1% advantage in craps, and i think dice control is rubbish as far as knowing for certain that it works
 
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