What are typical table limits?

[Liquid Chips]

I have done very well with online casinos last year until November 2009 when it appears most casino software providers started applying slot machine mentality to blackjack. In other words, instead of letting the random card drawing (ahem) determine the fate of my wins and losses, the casinos started guaranteeing themselves a profit. In further other words, they started forcing losses when I bet bigger hands. Blackjack online has become Slotjack.

So I'm looking to see if the betting strategies I've employed in online casinos would work in land casinos. Online casinos were nice in that nearly all of them had table spreads of $1-$200 up to $1-$500. I had thought that land casinos had wider spreads until I saw some postings talking about $5-$25 table limits!!

So what are the typical table limits in say, Atlantic City and Las Vegas? Are table limits typically smaller in Indian casinos? Tunica? Detroit? The closest casinos to me would be in Pennsylvania and West Virginia.

 

[Mewtwo]

For reference, I have seen the following at the Rivers, in PA.

$15-500 (Continuous shuffle machines)
$25-2,500 (Automatic shuffle machines)
$100-$5,000 (Hand-shuffle, 6 decks, no mid-shoe entry)

 

[Nynefingers]

Can you explain what you were doing at the online casinos? From the tone of your post, it sounds like you should probably avoid brick and mortar casinos as well.

Edit: Just read a couple of your previous posts. Definitely avoid brick and mortar casinos if you don't hate money.

 

[shadroch]

If you read his past posts, the Op would be well advised to avoid gambling in any form.

 

[Liquid Chips]

Can you explain what you were doing at the online casinos? From the tone of your post, it sounds like you should probably avoid brick and mortar casinos as well.

Edit: Just read a couple of your previous posts. Definitely avoid brick and mortar casinos if you don't hate money.

If you read his past posts, the Op would be well advised to avoid gambling in any form.

Uh, what do these posts have to do with table limits? FYI, I've won over $60,000 last year from online casinos despite their best efforts to adjust to my betting strategy. (Google "Heroes casino" and "westland bowl") Then it changed to them just outright forcing a loss when I upped my bet. I can tell (call it sixth sense) when the random number generator is being overridden when my bet size is larger. A number of other very good online blackjack players have noticed the same thing in recent months. Online blackjack has changed for the worse. I'm ready to move on until online gambling is regulated.

Will my online betting strategies work in brick and mortar casinos? The hell I know but I'm willing to try. Mewtwo's figures seem alright for me. How often does AC or LV have $5 or $1 tables?

 

[Nynefingers]

Uh, what do these posts have to do with table limits?

It has absolutely nothing to do with table limits, but everything to do with the fact that your "betting strategies" cannot provide you with a mathematical edge. What Shad and I are saying is that if you continue to gamble, you will eventually lose your money.

FYI, I've won over $60,000 last year from online casinos despite their best efforts to adjust to my betting strategy.

Irrelevant. Congratulations on your good luck. My friendly advice is to quit while you are ahead, or to take some time off to learn some legitimate ways to gain an advantage. Card counting would be a good start. You can build from there.

 

[Mewtwo]

Uh, what do these posts have to do with table limits? FYI, I've won over $60,000 last year from online casinos despite their best efforts to adjust to my betting strategy. (Google "Heroes casino" and "westland bowl") Then it changed to them just outright forcing a loss when I upped my bet. I can tell (call it sixth sense) when the random number generator is being overridden when my bet size is larger. A number of other very good online blackjack players have noticed the same thing in recent months. Online blackjack has changed for the worse. I'm ready to move on until online gambling is regulated.

Will my online betting strategies work in brick and mortar casinos? The hell I know but I'm willing to try. Mewtwo's figures seem alright for me. How often does AC or LV have $5 or $1 tables?

All I know is the lower the table limits the worse off the ruleset in any place that's allowed to establish its own ruleset. At $5 expect 8decks H17, no surrender, no RSA, and 65% pen if you're lucky, not that you should be playing such a game anyway. At $1 expect 6:5 blackjack on top of all of that.

 

[LIB]

FYI, I've won over $60,000 last year from online casinos despite their best efforts to adjust to my betting strategy. (Google "Heroes casino" and "westland bowl") Then it changed to them just outright forcing a loss when I upped my bet. I can tell (call it sixth sense) when the random number generator is being overridden when my bet size is larger. A number of other very good online blackjack players have noticed the same thing in recent months. Online blackjack has changed for the worse. I'm ready to move on until online gambling is regulated.

Of the online casinos and betting progression, I'll say none as I never looked into either. "Betting strategy" never interested me even before I learned anything about Blackjack. First of all, it's just way too passive to jive with my taste. At its best with premium sugar coat applied, it's a defense. No more than that. Without the coat, it's a fairly optimistic midsummer night's dream. I think it was a misc. chapter of a Blackjack book that I learned that they have no mathematical advantage, but I'm not certain where I read it. Regardless, I turned away from it and never looked back. Enough with rambling. Consider the following for your benefit.

1.) It's been proven that episodic memory performs much poorly than what people think. Contrary to popular belief, that includes flashbulb memories.

2.)Your and/or other very good online blackjack players' "sixth sense" doesn't mean a thing. What you need is a statistical test to test hypothesis and non-biased data that is of a sufficient size.

It's up to you where you sail your boat. Do what you like. It reads like you're determined to give it a trial anyway. It's just that 60 grand sounds like something to sit down and roll eyeballs for.

 

[Sonny]

C'mon guys, be nice to Liquid Chips. At least he's giving his money to the cainos instead of Cipher now. I'd much rather have him paying my salary than some scammer. Since he's determined to gamble away his bankroll, at least let him do it in a way that benefits some of us. :toast:

-Sonny-