What else is there to practice?

[p8ntballsk8r]

So I have BS perfect. I spread 1-10 in a 6d shoe EV -.66 off the top but very good pen. I don't ever really lose track counting or forget what the right play is or how much to bet or anything. Using KO. But I'm hearing of you guys practicing ever day for an hour +... what else is there to look into?

 

[golfnut101]

So I have BS perfect. I spread 1-10 in a 6d shoe EV -.66 off the top but very good pen. I don't ever really lose track counting or forget what the right play is or how much to bet or anything. Using KO. But I'm hearing of you guys practicing ever day for an hour +... what else is there to look into?

Depending how often you play, practice will ensure you stay sharp, if nothing else. I can easily carry on a conversation with wife/kids, while dealing 3-4 hands to myself with but a quick glance at table and keep accurate count(part of my practice routine is to ALWAYS count shoe after I have played to ensure accuracy)where as a year ago, I could not have dreamed of doing that. I think their is always room to get better.

 

[Sonny]

…I'm hearing of you guys practicing ever day for an hour +... what else is there to look into?

Sequencing, cutting, steering, front loading, betting strategies, various forms of shuffle tracking, glimpsing, backline betting, cover plays, side bets, various team plays, scavenger plays, couponomy, comp counting, other BJ variants (SuperFun 21, Spanish 21, BJ Switch, 6:5 BJ, etc.), shadow play, edge play, and the list goes on and on.

-Sonny-

 

[Ringer]

So I have BS perfect. I spread 1-10 in a 6d shoe EV -.66 off the top but very good pen. I don't ever really lose track counting or forget what the right play is or how much to bet or anything. Using KO. But I'm hearing of you guys practicing ever day for an hour +... what else is there to look into?

I always keep a deck with me so that in any sort of down time I practice reading cards. The faster I get at it, the less time it takes me to count the table and less likely I'm going to get caught watching the table.

Never taking your eyes off the table is a big giveaway that you're counting. If you can count fast, then you can talk to others, turn away, buy drinks.. etc to look normal.

 

[21forme]

Sequencing, cutting, steering, front loading, betting strategies, various forms of shuffle tracking, glimpsing, backline betting, cover plays, side bets, various team plays, scavenger plays, couponomy, comp counting, other BJ variants (SuperFun 21, Spanish 21, BJ Switch, 6:5 BJ, etc.), shadow play, edge play, and the list goes on and on.

-Sonny-

So where does one learn the more useful and important techniques on the list above? It seems many of them are shrouded in secrecy, innuendo, etc.

 

[Sonny]

So where does one learn the more useful and important techniques on the list above?

Why, right here of course!

http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=3995

As far as the methods shrouded in secrecy, you’ll probably discover a few on your own once you start looking at the techniques above.

-Sonny-

 

[p8ntballsk8r]

K so from where i'm at right now, I'm know I'm not able to keep a full conversation and count, so maybe start by playin some of my favorite songs that I can sing along with / listen to and deal myself hands out and keep count? Then work up to actually having a convo or somethin like that?

Also when you say practice reading the cards are you talking about like the organization of the pips or what? So u can instantly know what card it is and the value it pertains.

For those of you who practice often, are you practicing playing all 3 or 4 or how every many hands at the table? or just dealing them out for the sake of keeping an RC then picking them up. Also do you play with chips on these or what? cuz I feel like it would be kind of a hastle without someone else paying me out.

 

[golfnut101]

For those of you who practice often, are you practicing playing all 3 or 4 or how every many hands at the table? or just dealing them out for the sake of keeping an RC then picking them up. Also do you play with chips on these or what? cuz I feel like it would be kind of a hastle without someone else paying me out.

For what its worth, and their are many more experienced than I with alot more practical drills Im sure, here is my routine:

Count down a single deck in pairs ten times. All must be under 18 sec. before I can move on with no errors. I will then count down a single deck having removed 1 card, two cards, and then three cards, having to know what cards are removed. I then practice card cut estimation; that is, simulating a cut into a freshly shuffled 6 deck shoe, so that I know that I am getting at least 75% pen(78 cards or less) I keep a journal so I can track my accuracy.
I then play heads up, 2 player and 3 player, moving around from 1st base to 3rd base. Yes, we all would like 3rd base, but, if I am backcounting, and a juicy count appears with only something in the middle available, Im not passing it up. And yes, I do practice with chips, to ensure my pay-outs are accurate, and to simulate the real deal as muchas possible. I did this every night for approx. six months. I now do this 2-3 times a week. I can tell you that my ability to count a table quickly and in a very relaxed manner has improved tenfold. The system you choose is not as important, IMHO, as how much effort you put into learning the basics. Read and read more; practice and practice even more than that. It is worth it knowing that, no matter what level your playing at, you are sharp and confident when you enter the casino. I hope this helps you. Work hard if you are serious. Best of luck to you.