What happened to me? Flat-betted, backed off, or barred?

[ArcticInferno]

I may have gone to Borgata too many times during the same shift.
The pit crew started recognizing me.
There were tell tale signs, but I ignored them.
Finally it happened.
I sat at a table and played one shoe during a shift where I
didn't recognize the pit crew. After that one shoe, the pit
crew changed shifts and the new pit crew came in, and I
recognized this one particular guy. He frantically punched into
the computer that's next to my table. I guess he was trying to
see the damage, which was minimal. After the shuffle, on the
first round, I placed $25 on two spots. With an emotionally
charged tone and red face, the pit guy pointed at me and said,
“You can play only one hand.” He told others at the table,
“Everyone else can play as many hands as they want. But you can
play only one hand.” He repeated himself four times with
frantic hand gesticulations. Everyone heard him the first time,
but he felt the need to repeat four times. And finally he said,
“If you want to come to the side and talk, we’ll talk.”
I didn’t say anything and ignored him, and he said, “I didn’t
think so!” I got up, cashed in and walked out of the casino.
Others at the table were asking, “What was that all about?”
I’ve been backed off at Caesars in Las Vegas, so I know how it
works. The shift manager politely states that I’m just too
skilled for them, and that I may play any game I want except
Blackjack.
However, this fiasco at Borgata is bizarre, to say the least.
Why was the pit guy steaming red face?
On the first round immediately after the shuffle, I placed $25
at two spots. Why was that “wrong”?
Is there a name for what happened to me?

 

[21forme]

The name for it is harassment :grin: Very strange... If he thought you were a threat he would half half-shoed or told you you're limited to 5-50.

Nothing wrong with 2x25, though personally, I've gotten away from playing 2 hands at BJ. It attracts attention.

I'd just try to avoid the guy. The Borg is big enough it's not hard to do. I've had a few Borg PCs I've been avoiding for years. You'll find out next time you play if there are any notes in the computer about you. If so, either play anon or with a different name.

 

[Automatic Monkey]

What an a-hole. Sounds like it may have been the first time he gave anyone heat and he was getting wood from it.

 

[WABJ11]

What an a-hole. Sounds like it may have been the first time he gave anyone heat and he was getting wood from it.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[WABJ11]

You know I was thinking about this scenario and since this was in NJ, is the pit even allowed to do this?

 

[BJgenius007]

You know I was thinking about this scenario and since this was in NJ, is the pit even allowed to do this?

There is more than Inferno telling us. I bet he got banned for some other reason he forgot to tell us in the story.

 

[Ferretnparrot]

This happens to me all the time their, once i was dubbed whatever i was dubbed, whenever I submit my players card, they prompt me to play only one hand, but only if the pit person notices whatever instructs him to do so.

I guess the difference between you and I is that they dont actually remember my face personally, only that they see something on the screen that tells them i can only play one hand.

I usually play two hands, then give my card afterward at the end of the playing, and if they say anything, i just stack the bets ontop of eachother and only play one hand at twice the amount.

In the past, I used to get shuffled at anythign over 100/hnd, but not anymore and i frequently play rated at 150x2

The funny thing is, I still get about 10-15/hr in comps+ promotions in the mail, and match play coupons.

I guess you would call it intimidation, in an attempt to make it less desirable for you to play there knowing they will treat you liek crap, Iv encountered similar situations at trump plaza, and the hilton, the hilton experience was the most extreme, i posted about it before.

 

[ArcticInferno]

Ferretnparrot, basically you’re saying that you have been identified and confirmed as an advantage player, but they still allow you to play, albeit only one hand. That’s incredible! I thought that they “flat-bet” you or something if you have been confirmed as an AP.
I neeeever get rated. I don’t even have a ratings card. I read a “horror story” on the web of some guy who was reported to the IRS by a casino. I doubt a casino will *really* alert the IRS that you earned/won so and so amount of money, but why take the chance. I don’t want anyone, especially the casino, to know how much money I made.

 

[Ferretnparrot]

I think it was because of how I played it off, see it kinda went like this....
I was approached, and told I was limited to one hand and I was getting half shoes, I said, "thats ok, im cool" or somethign to that effect, I counted the half shoe, and dropped bets with them watching my game, they shuffled on me when i bet over 100, the dealer cut the shoe in half, and i counted it again, then when they shullfed i started counting the adjacent table ( which wasnt half shoed , and I think at that point they realised, their half shoing had no effect on my willingness to play, and I just kept playing for like another hour and a half during which time, they ignored me altogether. Maybe they erroniously beleived a 3/6 game was IMPOSSIBLE to beat and they were making money off of me.

Now, whenever I use my card, im limited to one hand, sometimes, whenever they feel like limiting me.

Thats how it went down.

 

[BJgenius007]

I think it was because of how I played it off, see it kinda went like this....
I was approached, and told I was limited to one hand and I was getting half shoes, I said, "thats ok, im cool" or somethign to that effect, I counted the half shoe, and dropped bets with them watching my game, they shuffled on me when i bet over 100, the dealer cut the shoe in half, and i counted it again, then when they shullfed i started counting the adjacent table ( which wasnt half shoed , and I think at that point they realised, their half shoing had no effect on my willingness to play, and I just kept playing for like another hour and a half during which time, they ignored me altogether. Maybe they erroniously beleived a 3/6 game was IMPOSSIBLE to beat and they were making money off of me.

Now, whenever I use my card, im limited to one hand, sometimes, whenever they feel like limiting me.

Thats how it went down.

I don't believe your story, just like I don't believe 75% of the stories posted here. These days people are talking ****.

Big casinos hardly ban players even they are the most accurate counters these days. They do ban counters. But only those bet between minimal and table max like 100 to 1 spread. People who post stories about being banned are just attention whores.

 

[moo321]

I don't believe your story, just like I don't believe 75% of the stories posted here. These days people are talking ****.

Big casinos hardly ban players even they are the most accurate counters these days. They do ban counters. But only those bet between minimal and table max like 100 to 1 spread. People who post stories about being banned are just attention whores.

Are you talking about in AC?

Because if you're seriously getting on here and claiming everyone who's been banned is lying about it, you're just being ridiculous. If you bet decent money in Vegas, they'll ban your ass in a heartbeat if you get caught.