What is the dis-advantage in this game?

Albee

Well-Known Member
I recently played a short session at what I consider a decent game. It was in LV, at the Golden Nugget.


Single deck

H17, double on ANY amount of cards.....double after splitting, surrender with any amount of cards....and about 70% of deck was dealt out.

Blackjacks were paid at even money prior to dealer looking at their hand.


Thanks in advance.
 

rethink

Member
The offer of "Even Money" when a dealer is showing an Ace and you have blackjack is a favorable play though right? I know not in this specific case, because it sounds like a set rule, rather than a Surrender Option.


I'm not entirely sure if it's the right play, but I've so far taken Even Money when it was offered with a dealer showing an Ace to my bj.

Please advise :D
 

sabre

Well-Known Member
rethink said:
The offer of "Even Money" when a dealer is showing an Ace and you have blackjack is a favorable play though right? I know not in this specific case, because it sounds like a set rule, rather than a Surrender Option.


I'm not entirely sure if it's the right play, but I've so far taken Even Money when it was offered with a dealer showing an Ace to my bj.

Please advise :D
Even money = insurance.
Insurance = 2:1 payout on a 2.5:1 shot

Not goot
 

jack.jackson

Well-Known Member
Albee said:
I recently played a short session at what I consider a decent game. It was in LV, at the Golden Nugget.


Single deck

H17, double on ANY amount of cards.....double after splitting, surrender with any amount of cards....and about 70% of deck was dealt out.

Blackjacks were paid at even money prior to dealer looking at their hand.


Thanks in advance.

Can you surrender after doubling? What about surrendering against dealer ace? Not sure, what the Advantage would be being able to surrender on any number of cards? Any other bonuses? What about resplitting aces?
 
jack said:
Can you surrender after doubling? What about surrendering against dealer ace? Not sure, what the Advantage would be being able to surrender on any number of cards? Any other bonuses? What about resplitting aces?
If it's Superfun, I believe you can do damned near anything you want any time you want. It's six-card Charlie, and a 5-card 21 pays 2:1. A natural in diamonds pays 2:1.

This is the kind of game you can ream through-and-through if you play it right (nothing like BJ) and they let you, but I don't think they let you anymore. There are Superfun specialists just like there are SP21 specialists but Superfun appears to be contracting.
 

Albee

Well-Known Member
Yes, a Super Fun 21 version

It was a Super Fun 21 game.....the first I had found that offered the double on any amount of cards and surrender.

I can't answer the question 'can you surrender after you double'. I'm pretty sure I was asked that question and said no......so to answer someones question....I'm pretty sure you can, but not positive.

Can you surrender when the dealer shows an ace....yes.


I found it to be a decent game that but more than a few bucks into my pocket. I nailed the 3-card eleven double two or thre times.
 

metronome

Well-Known Member
Looks like superfun21.
Just checked Wizard of Odds and house edge @ 1 deck was 1.16%.
Not a good game. I've never played much less seen this novelty game.
'Course they don't let me out much. :yikes:
 

jack.jackson

Well-Known Member
Automatic Monkey said:
If it's Superfun, I believe you can do damned near anything you want any time you want. It's six-card Charlie, and a 5-card 21 pays 2:1. A natural in diamonds pays 2:1.

This is the kind of game you can ream through-and-through if you play it right (nothing like BJ) and they let you, but I don't think they let you anymore. There are Superfun specialists just like there are SP21 specialists but Superfun appears to be contracting.
Ya, but i guess it depends on the # of decks and the exact rules in play, which determines whether it's beatable or not. And pen of course. A house edge of 1% with single deck and 70% pen, may prove to be worth it. I like the game! and the rules could prove to be advantageous, for the counter.
 
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