what in everyone's opinion is the optimum spread for profit vs heat? is a 1-10 spread suspicious for drawing heat? just wanted to see everyone's input. i would love to do a 1-20 spread if i could, but i am too conscious of the possibility of drawing heat. i am afraid if my spread is too low, then i am wasting my high counts and could potentially be in the loss column over the long term. any experiences appreciated.
what is the optimum spread?
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paddywhack
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That's going to totally depend on the rules and number of decks in play. Can be as low as 1-4 or as high as 1-16 or more.Ace007 said:
So we need more info.
how would that make a difference with drawing heat? i play all games single deck, double deck, 6-8 shoe games with a variety of rules of both H17 or S17, DAS and no DAS, and also re-splitting and no re-splitting aces. i figure if my play changes too much at any of these tables there would be increased heat win or lose because of the variation of play. i try to keep things as standard as possible as even ploppies have their own techniques or instincts which influences there pattern of play.
paddywhack
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Because you asked for profit.... Play a 6D shoe spreading 1-4 and YOU LOSE. Play a SD spreading 1-16 and you will be shown the door in a hurry.Ace007 said:
As much as you'd like it to, one size will not fit all.
u have a point. that makes sense... so between a 1-4 spread which guarantees loss in a 6D shoe vs 1-16 spread on single deck drawing too much heat. 1-10 falls in the middle. maybe this is best! lol... i've just noticed in shoe games not many spread 1-10 so i am reluctant to spread by that much. i've seen it in single deck once in a while and there definitely is attention drawn to the table. just wanted to know other's strategy of spread and experiences with heat at which spread.
paddywhack
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Moo's advice is the standard answer found in most texts. I personally spread higher than that on DD and way higher on 6D, sometimes 1-80. Get to know your opponent and you'll have an idea what you can get away with. And then do it, or more.Ace007 said:
thanks. i'll keep those tips in mind. just from my observation at several places where i play when the spread reaches 10X the original bet the dealer gives a signal to the pitboss. i've seen it on more than one occasion. some places don't, but some do. i guess i just have to be aware where i can spread higher.
paddywhack
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If it's a multi-deck game I wouldn't think a 1-10 would be a problem unless the store is really sweaty.Ace007 said:
BTW - there are several ways to get a 1-20 spread where the pit doesn't think you're doing it.
Gamblor
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What kind of signal? You mean checks play call? That's nothing. If its something else I've never seen a dealer give a non-verbal signal to a pit boss, they're not even allowed to look back.Ace007 said:
Now don't get it into your mind of spreading to 80 every chance you get. Observe your environment and be part of your environment.
zengrifter
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Agreed.paddywhack said:
On the other hand - ACE, if you can aggressively avoid -EV counts, a 1-5
6D spread is sufficient, but if you play all counts 1-10 is NOT enough. zg
paddywhack
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Very possible moo. We need to coordinate schedules sometime soon.moo321 said:I think I saw you spreading 1-80 a few weeks ago...