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Ken count

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My friend is a member of the lions club and they started a casino night he knows I play alot of black jack so he calls me and
invites me down. I played a little but(1 hour broke even)
did not play much because of the rule of dealer wins push exept 21
the rules are
6 deck
dealer wins push exept 21(21 against 21 is a push)
d s 17
resplit up to 4 times
resplit aces
double on any thing
here is the kicker
pen was about 90%(somtimes they would only cut off about half deck)
2 min 20 max
what can you do to get over the push thing exept not play
what turned me off so quick was a couple of time the count called for big bet I would get 20 but so wouyld the dealer I get 19
they would get 19
The travel is 10 minutes from house and they will be having this
2 times a month so I figured it might be worth trying to
figure out
 
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SammyBoy

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I don't see how it could be...

I agree with the others, this is unplayable. It would have to be double exposure for me to even think about playing and even then I'm not sure it would be worth it.
 
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Stealth Bomber

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They usually call it 'Casino Night'

It's legal if your playing for points that are redeemable for prizes at the end of the play session. Each person who stays to the end will have the opportunity to enter a bidding contest against the other people who have accumulated points also. The prizes are donated by businesses in the near vicinity, so they get some name exposure. The buy-in $ is usually given to certain announced charitable organizations.

The dealers at these fundraisers are not pros. They just donate their efforts for fun and the cause. You can clean house on their mistakes sometimes. Sometimes they give you extra unearned points if they like you. Many people leave early but still have a few points. Most of those people just throw them in the trash when exiting. I noticed this and got some extra points given to me while I was getting me some coffee during one of my wong-outs.

My brother and I once combined our points during the bidding contest. We walked out with about $650 worth of good prizes. The food was free too. My bro had $20 worth of buy-in. I had 40.

Hmmmm, my wheels are starting to turn. I just got myself an idea for a sideline legal business opportunity. ;-)

SB

p.s. You can spread your bets from min to max 'til the cows come home.
Also, I had better rules when I played; SD, DA2 H17 DAS 3 splits/4 hands & no RSA.
 
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Ken count

Member
Re: They usually call it 'Casino Night'

This casino night was for money cashed in for chips at the table and
cashed them in at the bar when I left.Another thing was the spread
$2 min $20 max I wish they would at least do 40 max you could sit out as many hands as you want and not lose your spot.Nobody watching table
you could do what you wante I split tens against a dealer 10 and nobody even blinked an eye. The dealer was making mistakes
the best one was splitting aces and getting more than one card on each
that lasted about 20 minutes till on of the players said wait you cant give him another card then another player tells him shhh it helps us
the drunk loud mouth says I wont to play by the rules When I left
about a hour later that guy was down over $300 and saying this is one of the
luckiest dealers I ever saw and asking moose mebers for a new dealer
all in all it was fun
 
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Cyrano

Well-Known Member
Re: They usually call it 'Casino Night'

A frat at my college did this a few years back. They said it's "fund-raising". Supposedly, under that guise, many things become legal.
 
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Felix Rue-de-Guerre

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Re: They usually call it 'Casino Night'

Here in Ohio, an organization is allowed to have two Casino Night events per year for "charity" purposes. The dealers are not allowed to be compensated, and I'm sure many other restrictions exist to do it legally.

There were a couple of organizers here who just got in big trouble. I have been to both of their events.

One person ran a website with a list of all the "Charities" that were holding events run by him. He even supplied the dealers, and I'm sure they were probably getting paid. He ran a special once where ties pushed for the first few hours of the event. (After 45 minute drive I got there to find $2 to $10 shoes, all tables too full to wong...Grrr!) Anyhow, he effectively ran a traveling casino in the Akron, OH area for quite some time before they finally busted him. He was keeping much of the profit.

The other one was having matchplay coupons printed on local ATM recipts. His dealers were obviously recruits, though. I checked this one out because of the coups. The dealer I had was pushing all ties(he wasn't supposed to). I had a couple of $10 matchplays and was betting $2 per hand. He was only discounting the matchplay when I lost(or maybe it was when I won, I can't remember now). But, I do remember making a few bucks off that one.

Awile back, before I learned to count, there was a couple of charity tables at a Fourth of July festival. The kid who was dealing felt bad for a some old ladies who were losing. So, shortly after I sat down, he started to give hints as to what the hole card was. I got some bucks out of this situation, too. I showed up the following two years after that. I found the same kid dealing both years, but he was hardly as generous.

So there can be opportunities at these things. It's just not standard stuff.

Hey, I got it. Try telling the dealer that, in Vegas, they will tell you the hole card if you ask!

-Felix
 
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