What's the best way to play a big win?

[aslan]

Let's say you have a $30K BR and you're playing a 6D S17 DAS game with 75% pen. You are spreading $25 to $250. You are $100 down when the count goes to a high plus. You are betting two hands, $200 on each hand. You win both hands for $400. Next round you blackjack on one hand and win double-down on the other hand, for a total of $700. Next round you win a triple split with one double-down and your other hand for a total of $1,000. You are now $2,000 up (400+700+1,000-100). There is at least one more round left to deal, but you decide that $2,000 is a great haul, and that not only is leaving with a high positive count good camo, but you don't figure to win every hand even when the count is high. You leave the game, jubilantly declaring, "I don't want to push my luck! Damn! I'm almost even for the week! My wife would kill me if I didn't quit now!"

Is this a good decision? How would you play it? Would you try to extract every last dime? Is there any truth to my reasoning process for leaving?

 

[Automatic Monkey]

Play the last round, and if your emotions aren't in check or you want to do something with the money, leave. A shoe player works too hard to walk away from any kind of a good count.

 

[aslan]

Play the last round, and if your emotions aren't in check or you want to do something with the money, leave. A shoe player works too hard to walk away from any kind of a good count.

When they review this shoe with software, as they well might do, wouldn't the fact that I left without finishing the shoe, protect me from barring? Does it matter how much you want to return to that particular casino, in this case the Borgata which is about the only place you can find a 6D game in AC?

 

[Automatic Monkey]

When they review this shoe with software, as they well might do, wouldn't the fact that I left without finishing the shoe, protect me from barring? Does it matter how much you want to return to that particular casino, in this case the Borgata which is about the only place you can find a 6D game in AC?

No you can find a 6D game in at least 4 places in AC, it doesn't matter whether it's 6D or 8D in AC, you can't be barred in AC, and walking away from a high count is a hell of a way to give yourself cover. You're better off backcounting- nobody's monitoring your play when you're not playing.

 

[21forme]

I'd continue playing the shoe as long as the count warrants it.

Your bets are not high for Borgata and I don't believe they would be reviewing anything here.

 

[shadroch]

As you've been told several times now,in different threads,you can't be barred in AC for counting.Your bets are on the low side of average for the Borgota,so there would be no reason for them to do anything.
If you are betting $200 a hand on two hands,a $2,000 win equals you winning five rounds more than you lost.Nothing to set off any bells or whistles.
If winning $2,000 is a big thing to you,then you should stop.But stopping for the sake of hoping to add some camo to your game is not a good reason.
Actually,a good friend who is a floor guy at Trump told me that when people get up with a big win and start making excuses-I'm almost even,my wife,ect,ect-that sets off his bells.Most people are bad actors,and liars.Lack of practice,I think.

 

[Mimosine]

you never ever ever should walk away from a pos count UNLESS you already have heat. you could always go back to one hand, or tone down your bets a little bit, but even if i'm losing hand over fist - if the count is good i'll keep digging into my wallet until the shoe is done or i am out of money. if you're winning hand over fist then you should keep playing, because the next positive shoe could be far off in the distance.

 

[jack.jackson]

Let'er ride.

Alot of gamblers like to double up on their winnings. So doubling up after a win looks like a natural move. Remember those last rounds our the money rounds. Sometimes you gotta say "what the hell" im all in.

But some big wins like that! Who knows what i would ive done

 

[aslan]

As you've been told several times now,in different threads,you can't be barred in AC for counting.Your bets are on the low side of average for the Borgota,so there would be no reason for them to do anything.

My mistake. By barred I meant to say backed off and unable to do anything more at that casino. I know they can't bar me. The other information, "low side of average" is very useful to me. Thank you.

If you are betting $200 a hand on two hands,a $2,000 win equals you winning five rounds more than you lost.Nothing to set off any bells or whistles.

But if I was only betting $200 a hand after playing $25 a hand for a couple of shoes and probably only one hand at a time during negative counts, that might be a different story, no? The sudden ramp up to $200X2 in a positive count and then the $2,100 score might set off a bell or two. At least I naively thought it might.
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If winning $2,000 is a big thing to you,then you should stop.But stopping for the sake of hoping to add some camo to your game is not a good reason.
Actually,a good friend who is a floor guy at Trump told me that when people get up with a big win and start making excuses-I'm almost even,my wife,ect,ect-that sets off his bells.Most people are bad actors,and liars.Lack of practice,I think.

No, $2,000 is no big thing. Being put on the counter list at my favorite spot is a big thing to me. If two of you are agreed that this will not upset the applecart, that's good enough for me. BTW, I am a very good actor. Myers Briggs personality test results point to acting as a preferred career choice.

 

[aslan]

No you can find a 6D game in at least 4 places in AC, it doesn't matter whether it's 6D or 8D in AC, you can't be barred in AC, and walking away from a high count is a hell of a way to give yourself cover. You're better off backcounting- nobody's monitoring your play when you're not playing.

I haven't been backcounting up until now, but I think now that I'm comfortable counting I will start. One deterrent to backcounting is that tables are so full that you're lucky to get a seat at all, much less get a seat when you want to. I think I'll start another thread on this issue.

 

[aslan]

you never ever ever should walk away from a pos count UNLESS you already have heat. you could always go back to one hand, or tone down your bets a little bit, but even if i'm losing hand over fist - if the count is good i'll keep digging into my wallet until the shoe is done or i am out of money. if you're winning hand over fist then you should keep playing, because the next positive shoe could be far off in the distance.

Thanks. I feel strongly encouraged by you and others here to push it to the limit. Heck, they might back me off some day for doing absolutely nothing, so I might as well enjoy it while I can. There are better ways to camo anyway.

 

[shadroch]

It takes awhile,but you need to learn not to worry about sessions and think in the long-term.Since you aren't quitting gambling,you will eventually be back and put your money back in play. But next time,the count won't be so good.
Try to find a $25 table that has someone betting stupidly big money.Playing a $25-200 spread on the same table as someone betting $500 a hand is pretty akin to being invisable.