When is ZG Coming Back?
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Rob McGarvey
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He was sentenced on 2002-11-27 and turned himself in about six weeks later to serve a 30 month sentence. This coresponds with his last post here on 1/17/03 11:07:44 p.m I'd say he went in on the 18th. He may get a shorter sentence since word has it that he has opted for the drug rehab program which switched him from Nellis to Florida.
Looking forward to a new improved non-Grifter when he comes out.
RM
Looking forward to a new improved non-Grifter when he comes out.
RM
Rob McGarvey
Well-Known Member
Summer Time
It would be nice to have him back by summer.
It would be nice to have him back by summer.
John Wesley Powell
Member
Re: Summer Time
He is a confirmed and convicted con artist. No team he ever played on made money. Ask barfarkal? There are so many people waiting for him to get out that it would be safer for him to stay locked up. Anybody who smokes pot before they go play is out to lunch. He has fooled many people. He is not a player, he talks a good game but he lacks the integrity, honesty and basic personal hygiene (sic) that even the lowest forms of life adhere to. He is someone to be wary of and anyone who gets mixed up with him deserves what they get. I personally know friends of mine who will give a him very stern talking to when they meet, and they will meet, it is destiny. His handle is the grifter for a reason. Rehabilitated? Yeah right when pigs fly. He'll do any program that gets him out early. Remember you have been warned.
He is a confirmed and convicted con artist. No team he ever played on made money. Ask barfarkal? There are so many people waiting for him to get out that it would be safer for him to stay locked up. Anybody who smokes pot before they go play is out to lunch. He has fooled many people. He is not a player, he talks a good game but he lacks the integrity, honesty and basic personal hygiene (sic) that even the lowest forms of life adhere to. He is someone to be wary of and anyone who gets mixed up with him deserves what they get. I personally know friends of mine who will give a him very stern talking to when they meet, and they will meet, it is destiny. His handle is the grifter for a reason. Rehabilitated? Yeah right when pigs fly. He'll do any program that gets him out early. Remember you have been warned.
Rob McGarvey
Well-Known Member
Re: Summer Time
Yes, I had heard that Grifter was "taking the easy way out" (line from Day Tripper) and getting a reduced sentence by opting into drug re-hab, and that is why he was transferred to Florida. I have to admit that the psychopathology of a "grifter" or con(fidence) man is very similar to the psych of a serial murderer. There is a deep desire to get the better of people that you just can't shake. It is a thrill that normal people just do not share. Where some of us enjoy helping people out, there is that alternate universe or lifestyle. It would be rather easy to give up drugs in prison I would expect, so that one could get back to business as soon as possible. I'm sure he feels the thrill of grifting the jail system just as much as he enjoyed grifting his way to a lighter sentence by helping the feds catch all the people that he ran the boiler rooms with. Those 30 months could have been 30 years. I'd think he would be afraid of running into his boiler room buddies more so than the mathematically minded counters, but who knows?
You don't tug on superman's cap
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask of the ol lone ranger
And you don't mess around with SLIM
Personally, I like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, and so I am looking for the better angels of his nature when they spring him. I will suggest that you take his advice on blackjack, no question, until you get to the point that he wants to "hook up" with you. I'm positive that with certain individuals he knows enough to play fair, and will always refer you to those people as a judge of character. I have been surprised and been upset by some of these people for either being duped, or being blind, or even worse: knowing the truth and standing idly by. I will never understand that for as long as I live.
There is also another reason I titled my post Summer Time. That is the song I remember the tragic life of Janice Joplin to. Under all that Zen and Grifter, I see a very unhappy guy looking for something he just can't get.
Robby Mac PhD
Yes, I had heard that Grifter was "taking the easy way out" (line from Day Tripper) and getting a reduced sentence by opting into drug re-hab, and that is why he was transferred to Florida. I have to admit that the psychopathology of a "grifter" or con(fidence) man is very similar to the psych of a serial murderer. There is a deep desire to get the better of people that you just can't shake. It is a thrill that normal people just do not share. Where some of us enjoy helping people out, there is that alternate universe or lifestyle. It would be rather easy to give up drugs in prison I would expect, so that one could get back to business as soon as possible. I'm sure he feels the thrill of grifting the jail system just as much as he enjoyed grifting his way to a lighter sentence by helping the feds catch all the people that he ran the boiler rooms with. Those 30 months could have been 30 years. I'd think he would be afraid of running into his boiler room buddies more so than the mathematically minded counters, but who knows?
You don't tug on superman's cap
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask of the ol lone ranger
And you don't mess around with SLIM
Personally, I like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, and so I am looking for the better angels of his nature when they spring him. I will suggest that you take his advice on blackjack, no question, until you get to the point that he wants to "hook up" with you. I'm positive that with certain individuals he knows enough to play fair, and will always refer you to those people as a judge of character. I have been surprised and been upset by some of these people for either being duped, or being blind, or even worse: knowing the truth and standing idly by. I will never understand that for as long as I live.
There is also another reason I titled my post Summer Time. That is the song I remember the tragic life of Janice Joplin to. Under all that Zen and Grifter, I see a very unhappy guy looking for something he just can't get.
Robby Mac PhD
Automatic Monkey
Banned
Drugs in prison
Unfortunately no, prisons are full of drugs, as are many drug rehabs. Prison can be one of the worst places to try to get clean. The guards sell the stuff in there. What rotten bastards.
Unfortunately no, prisons are full of drugs, as are many drug rehabs. Prison can be one of the worst places to try to get clean. The guards sell the stuff in there. What rotten bastards.
Rob McGarvey
Well-Known Member
Tears in H . . . . .
Saturday they found the decomposed body of Cecilia Zhang. She was on America's Most Wanted back in October. Her 10th Birthday was tomorrow. She was taken from her home in October and a hiker found her along a river bank off a church parking lot. There is nothing quite as cruel and as inhumane as a human being. The burden of this kept me awake most of the night. I took today off to get some rest. I am a very sympathetic person, and for some reason, this got to me on a very deep level. Why? Why do my heart strings sing for this little girl? Why do they sing at all? Each time something like this happens, they sing louder, but they will never drown out the noise created by the demons that continue to manifest their greed, fear, and hatred. In this battle of the bands my 60w Roland Bolt 60 is no match for all those Hi Watt and Marshall cabinets stacked on top of each other screaming out for more souls to kill.
A prison is like the alternate universe to a church meeting.
Saturday they found the decomposed body of Cecilia Zhang. She was on America's Most Wanted back in October. Her 10th Birthday was tomorrow. She was taken from her home in October and a hiker found her along a river bank off a church parking lot. There is nothing quite as cruel and as inhumane as a human being. The burden of this kept me awake most of the night. I took today off to get some rest. I am a very sympathetic person, and for some reason, this got to me on a very deep level. Why? Why do my heart strings sing for this little girl? Why do they sing at all? Each time something like this happens, they sing louder, but they will never drown out the noise created by the demons that continue to manifest their greed, fear, and hatred. In this battle of the bands my 60w Roland Bolt 60 is no match for all those Hi Watt and Marshall cabinets stacked on top of each other screaming out for more souls to kill.
A prison is like the alternate universe to a church meeting.
Rob McGarvey
Well-Known Member
14 Months
from the original incarceration or 14 months in Florida? He's gonna miss the free room and board! ;>
from the original incarceration or 14 months in Florida? He's gonna miss the free room and board! ;>