When to surrender using a match play.

shadroch

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I found a casino that offers four seperate matchplays. You are allowed to use one of each type per day, but as they don't record your player number, it really means four per shift. Casino is too small to use more than fourper shift on any sort of regular basis. Eight to twelve a day seems okay.
Game uses a CSM so counting is out. BJ pays 6-5 so it's not a great game.
But.... it offers EARLY Surrender. You can surrender when the dealer has any card up, and they take only half your bet, leaving you half and your matchplay, so you are surrendering 25% of your bets value, not half.
Seems to me you should surrender much more frequently than BS dictates, but can't find any tables for this.
Thoughts? Of the four MP types, two are $5, one is $10 and one is $20.
The game is DAS but some pit bosses don't allow you to double the MP amount, some do. Same thing on DDs.
Strangely, I had a pitboss tell a dealer not to let me put $20 on each of the 8s I split, just $10 and MP on one, and $10 on the other, but the dealer told me he was wrong and let me do it anyway. Dealers don't seem to respect the PBs there, and it shows.
 

sabre

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From wizardofodds.com

Great site! I would call it the best among all the gambling sites I have seen on the web. A question about surrender in blackjack. Some casinos (for example Foxwoods) give match play coupons for Blackjack. One good thing about the coupon is that when you surrender, you only lose half of your own money, and are allowed to keep the whole coupon. (But you lose your coupon no matter you win or lose.) I guess you want to surrender more in this situation, but was wondering what is the correct strategy? Thanks! - Austin from Cambridge, MA

Thanks. You should be doing a lot of surrendering if you can keep the match play. My blackjack appendix 9 is good for questions such as this. A match play is worth just about half of face value. So if the expected value of the hand is less than -1/3 you should surrender. Assuming the dealer hits a soft 17 here are those times.

* Player 6 vs. 10-A
* Player 12 vs. 9-A
* Player 13 vs. 8-A
* Player 14 vs. 8-A
* Player 15 vs. 7-A
* Player 16 vs. 7-A
* Player 17 vs. 8-A
* Player 8,8 vs. 9-A

The strategy is the same if the dealer stands on a soft 17, except the player will not surrender 6 against an ace. Feb. 21, 2006
 
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