Where Should I Stay Between These Choices?

[Finn Dog]

Greetings,

I've got a comped stay coming up in LV and wondered where you'd recommend I stay between these seven choices: Caesars, Paris, Rio, Bally's, Flamingo, Harrah's, or Imperial Palace?

I've got a CBJN so really wondering more about overall experience (but I'll gladly take any table input for 6D Green level as well)!

PS--I'll rent a car.

Thanks in advance!

FD

 

[ihate17]

HET and the world of bad blackjack

I would stay and stiff, since this is a blackjack board and HET has extremely few playable blackjack games and many of their casinos have no blackjack that is even close to decent. Stay with HET, give your action to other casinos.
I believe Caesars or Paris would give you the nicest rooms and also might be the only places where you can find a few playable games. Caesars still might be playable at $100 minimums, I am not sure, Paris for the same.

Better blackjack though can be found around you in places owned by MGM and some independents.

ihate17

 

[Phillip Marlowe]

The Luxor has a couple of good games, and will comp rooms with the MGM card which you can play at all thier casinos. It's quite a nice and inexpensive place to stay.

 

[shadroch]

Greetings,

I've got a comped stay coming up in LV and wondered where you'd recommend I stay between these seven choices: Caesars, Paris, Rio, Bally's, Flamingo, Harrah's, or Imperial Palace?

I've got a CBJN so really wondering more about overall experience (but I'll gladly take any table input for 6D Green level as well)!

Thanks in advance!

FD

Working only with your casinos listed, I'd eliminate Bally's, Harrah's, flamingo and the IP in round one.
Will you have a car? If not, I'd eliminate Rio, which is a fun hotel with a lousy casino attached to it.
So it's either Paris or Caesars. Both are great hotels, neither offers great gambling. Paris gets the younger, prettier crowd, Caesars gets an older, but friendlier crowd, imo.
I'd stay at Paris, but play elsewhere.
If it's just a comp room from a mailer, give them $25 to $50s worth of play on a slot and the offers will continue.
Be forewarned that Harrahs now has an early departure penalty. It's $50 if you depart early. Not check out, just depart. Too many people were checking in, collecting their offers and then staying elsewhere.

 

[sabre]

Harrah's provides the closest proximity to a good game. Stay there and walk across the street to the Mirage.

The Bally's North Tower rooms are nice, and Bellagio is right across the street if you can handle higher minimums.

 

[callipygian]

Working only with your casinos listed, I'd eliminate Bally's, Harrah's, flamingo and the IP in round one.
Will you have a car? If not, I'd eliminate Rio, which is a fun hotel with a lousy casino attached to it.
So it's either Paris or Caesars.

This nailed it right on.

Caesars has nicer pools than the Paris, I'd choose Caesars solely for that.

 

[EasyRhino]

Be forewarned that Harrahs now has an early departure penalty. It's $50 if you depart early. Not check out, just depart. Too many people were checking in, collecting their offers and then staying elsewhere.

Interesting, I did a stay and stiff just recently, but didn't check out until the scheduled day. Define "depart" with regards to the penalty?

In HET world, Caesars is the fancier property and more restrictive on comps. I haven't staid there, so I probably would Otherwise, Paris.

Rio is a nice hotel, but worse location.

 

[shadroch]

I'm not sure what justifys the early departure penalty. The woman checking me in was obnoxious and answered the exact question with a dumb look. I stiffed them and checked out at the regular time. I'm guessing it means don't check in for a three day stay, collect your goodies and go stay at MGM.

 

[Finn Dog]

I would stay and stiff, since this is a blackjack board and HET has extremely few playable blackjack games and many of their casinos have no blackjack that is even close to decent. Stay with HET, give your action to other casinos.ihate17

ihate17:

By "staying and stiffing", do you mean that literally, as in give them zero action--not even some token laugh slot play?

Best regards,

FD

 

[callipygian]

The woman checking me in was obnoxious and answered the exact question with a dumb look.

Are you talking about CP? I noticed that as well when I stayed there last year. My hypothesis is that they cater to such a swanky crowd that they look down on anyone who isn't old, rich, and gullible.

Questions which suggest you might not fit into all three categories are answered with a scornful look, such as, "Are all the pools closed or just some of them?" and "Why wasn't this posted on your website?" or "Where is the poker room located?"

Perhaps the best indicator of who they thought was staying at the hotel was their response when I called the front desk and informed them the room safe was no longer working and all my money and credit cards were locked inside.

"Did you try opening it?"
"You have to put in a 4-digit password ..."

 

[shadroch]

ihate17:

By "staying and stiffing", do you mean that literally, as in give them zero action--not even some token laugh slot play?

Best regards,

FD

Depending on what kind of offer you have, you may be better off stiffing them completely.
If your offer comes from marketing, the casino side will never know you were even there unless you use your card.
You said you had a comp offer, but don't have a card. If we knew where the offer came from, it would be easier to advise.
Feel free to PM me if you don't want to discuss it publicly.

 

[ihate17]

Limited Harrah's experience lately

ihate17:

By "staying and stiffing", do you mean that literally, as in give them zero action--not even some token laugh slot play?

Best regards,

FD

I am not permitted on Harrah's properties, which does not mean that I might not show up at one where I know there is a weak dealer or two, but I have no card but this is what I understand on some of their comps.
Many people earn their comp for Vegas by playing at a HET property in another part of the country. Most often HET offers better games away from Nevada than their games in Nevada. These offers are generally generated by HET's marketing department which seldom communicates with their gaming people. The result appears to be that if you go and stay at Caesars on a marketing offer that was generated by your play back east somewhere, as long as you continue to play at the same rate back east, the offers will continue even if you do not spend a dime at Caesars.

Experts of HET's system also seem to have opinions on if you play at all or some. There is some opinion that once you put your card into a machine or present it at a table, it will trigger some kind of visit and small use of it might negatively effect future offers. So, no action at all might be much better than token action, but check it out further with people who play HET's comp system.

ihate17

 

[Finn Dog]

Depending on what kind of offer you have, you may be better off stiffing them completely.
If your offer comes from marketing, the casino side will never know you were even there unless you use your card.QUOTE]

Shadroch,

Yes, it's an offer generated by the marketing department from play elsewhere.

Best regards,

FD

 

[Finn Dog]

Many people earn their comp for Vegas by playing at a HET property in another part of the country. Most often HET offers better games away from Nevada than their games in Nevada. These offers are generally generated by HET's marketing department which seldom communicates with their gaming people. The result appears to be that if you go and stay at Caesars on a marketing offer that was generated by your play back east somewhere, as long as you continue to play at the same rate back east, the offers will continue even if you do not spend a dime at Caesars.

Experts of HET's system also seem to have opinions on if you play at all or some. There is some opinion that once you put your card into a machine or present it at a table, it will trigger some kind of visit and small use of it might negatively effect future offers. So, no action at all might be much better than token action, but check it out further with people who play HET's comp system.

ihate17

This clears everything up, thanks for the clarification.

Best regards,

FD

 

[shadroch]

Stiff em.