Where to play in Vegas,mid-week
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Sonny
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You're in the right spot! Downtown is a good place to be for red action. Here are a few suggestions: Vegas Club, Plaza, Horseshoe, El Cortez. With a 1:5 spread you will want to Wong out at least twice an hour. The more the better since most of those casinos are DD games which require a bigger spread. If you can leave around -2 or -3 you should have a decent win rate.
You might also want to check out Fitzgerald’s and Fremont on your way between those casinos. Sometimes you can Wong in on a DD game on your way through. Their games have pretty bad pen and are barely worth playing even with aggressive backcounting, but it doesn't hurt to do a little trolling. Also, the California can be a good place to find sloppy dealers if you don’t feel like walking all the way to the El Cortez or Western.
Since you have a car you can also check out Boulder Highway. There are several decent places there as well.
-Sonny-
You might also want to check out Fitzgerald’s and Fremont on your way between those casinos. Sometimes you can Wong in on a DD game on your way through. Their games have pretty bad pen and are barely worth playing even with aggressive backcounting, but it doesn't hurt to do a little trolling. Also, the California can be a good place to find sloppy dealers if you don’t feel like walking all the way to the El Cortez or Western.
Since you have a car you can also check out Boulder Highway. There are several decent places there as well.
-Sonny-
zengrifter
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Hey Shadroch - you have just enough time to learn basic strategy... or do you fancy that you know already? When would you split 9s, for example? zgshadroch said:
zengrifter
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Its generally a safe assumption. zgScottH said:
You're right, unfortunately. I can't imagine why anyone would play blackjack without knowing BS, but that's just me.zengrifter said:
Before I knew anything about blackjack my friends kept trying to get me to play blackjack. I was scared of playing blackjack because it seemed like there was too much "guessing" involved. I wanted to play the game with my friends so I decided to learn BS. Then I realized, why even play the game with only BS?
Too many people gamble. Even people that are really smart gamble. Gambling seems to just destroy people's common sense. When people are down money they keep playing trying to recover their losses even when they know they shouldn't. And casinos thrive on this. That is why I am learning to count, to take the casinos money.
Another thing that really bothers me with casinos is that they never tell someone to leave because they have a gambling problem or have lost too much, but they will ban you in a heartbeat if you win a little money from them.
I don't know if I should have posted this here or start a new thread, becuase it is a little off of the original topic.
E-town-guy
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It really depends on what you're trying to get out of gambling. If you're doing it to make a buck then you need to know how to count. If gambling is something you do for fun on the odd weekend who cares if the person knows BS. They probably play a little bit of every game (likely incorrectly) but they have a good time and sometimes win a bit. Thats fine for them and they couldn't be bothered to learn BS.ScottH said:
For those people who take gambling too far then BS or even knowing how to count really isn't going to help them. They need to stop.
It isnt the casino's fault, why would they care if you have a gambling problem? Should Mcdonald's ban fat people from eating there? No it comes down to personal choice and responsibility. Also who aer the casinos to say who has a gambling problem? I hate when people blame others or establishments for there personal problems of being weak and stupid.ScottH said:
ScottH said:
Actually there ARE casinos will tell someone to leave when they have lost too much. Certain states have imposed a loss limit law that casinos have to abide by. For example, if I remember correctly Missouri has a $500 loss limit which is still mandatory.Cass said:
So in this case McDonald's is indeed turning the fat person away.
Mikeaber
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I'm just guessing Gregory, but I would think that the humanitarian effort of Missouri when it imposed the $500 loss maximum (in a 2-hour time span and then wait another 2 hours before buying in again for another $500 max) was a concession Missouri made to the moralists in order to get the laws altered to allow gambling in that State. Everyone wanted the money the State could rake in taxes, but Missouri is in the Bible Belt and had to have some restriction to appease their perceived sense of morality!
But you are correct....McDonalds does turn fat people away in Missouri.
But you are correct....McDonalds does turn fat people away in Missouri.
Why do casinos have TV ads that show people winning and have catchy tunes about how everyone wins. They are purposely trying to decieve people into a false mindframe that they actually have a chance.Cass said:
So you're saying it's not the casinos fault for taking money from gamling addicts because it's not the casinos fault the person has the problem? I guess according to that logic it would make it perfectly ok for me to scam people with alzheimers, because it wouldn't be my fault that they have it and would be so "stupid" to fall for the scam.
I've never heard the casinos claim that everyone wins. It is called good advertising. It is not a false mind frame that they have a chance to win. Everyone has a chance. The house just has a better chance of winning.ScottH said:
No it isnt the casino's fault. The gambling "addict" must logically get some money and drive to the casino to spend it there. SCAMing a person is not the same as providing entertainment. If the person indulges too much in this so be it. Alcoholics should not be allowed in liquor stores? Sex addicts should not be allowed in strip clubs? The responsibility of when someone has lost too much or had enough relies on themselves. It isnt the business establishment's decision. I've lost over 10g the last year or so before i used to count cards. Mind you going way into debt in the process. Sometimes i would spend as much as i make in a week at the casinos or bars. It isnt the casino's fault. It is my fault. I guess i just like to gamble.. take risks. Or i was depressed.. who knows? i'm not about to blame the casino for not stopping my play. I've always lived by the saying, " you made your bed now you F$#KING lie in it!" The word addict is too overused in my opinion. People can stop if they want to (a porn addict has to connect to the internet and find his fav. sites before he can get his fix). Unless there is a chemical addiction that's different (endorphines dont count). I'm sure you dont agree with me.ScottH said:
Even IF I did agree with what you are saying. At what point does the casino stop someones play? If I come to the casino and lose $500 everyday does that mean i am a addict? What if im worth 20million? $500 is pocket change to me. Or the single mom who loses her $60 a week in child support at the casino. Kids cant eat... Is she a addict? Apparently you would be in favor of the casino keeping strict financial records of each customer so they can be cut off when they lost too much, Or are deemed a "addict". Whats the answer Scott? I want to know when a customer is considered a addict.
The casinos are in operation to provide "entertainment" as you say. If they were they could just charge customers 5 dollars per hour to play any game they wanted. Instead, they want to take everyone's money. They could care less if someone is going in debt in the process, money is money to them.Cass said:
I do agree that it is the person's own responsibility to control their gambling, but casinos are partially at fault just for existing. The problem I have is that they arent trying to peform a service by giving us entertainment, they are only in the business of taking people's hard earned money.
And if it's perfectly fine for casinos to take a gambler's money, why do they have such a problem with advantage players? Advantage players take MUCH less back than the casinos take from the addicts. But the casino decided it's ok to continue to let the addicts play while the advantage players are banned.
"I want to know when a customer is considered a addict."
Well, they have plenty of methods of determining winning players, would it be so hard for them to find the addicts?
So if the casinos really think they are providing us with entertainment, then they are saying we are losing money, BUT we are having fun. But when someone consistently WINS, it's a different story.
thanks.I know about 98% of BS. I'm playing on the hit or stand site and getting 95-98 correct every time.I have some trouble with when to split ,but will keep at it.Are there any DD games where the cards are dealt face up?
Btw-since this thread has gotten off topic,I read today that the casinos in Pennsylvania may be sending out monthly won-loss statements to their players. Trump has signed on for the idea if they are done quarterly.
Btw-since this thread has gotten off topic,I read today that the casinos in Pennsylvania may be sending out monthly won-loss statements to their players. Trump has signed on for the idea if they are done quarterly.
E-town-guy
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I know of one casino in Vegas that deals its two deck game like a shoe. There might be more.
Its not very hard though to count the cards if its a pitch game. I was worried it was going to be tough before my trip but found it just as easy as counting a shoe game.
Its not very hard though to count the cards if its a pitch game. I was worried it was going to be tough before my trip but found it just as easy as counting a shoe game.
zengrifter
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Shadroch -
Tell us your approach to the game, what strategy you use, etc. zg
Tell us your approach to the game, what strategy you use, etc. zg
I've been playing in AC for about two years,and two trips to Vegas.Most of that time,I'd bet a unit and if I won I'd up my bet to 1 1/2 units.Or bet 2 units and if I lost drop to 1 unit. Neither was terribly succesful,although I did have a few very good days.Once turned $200 into $600 but mostly turned $200 into zero or maybe $100.I've read books by Jerry Patterson,Angie Marshall and a few others. Am currently reading both Beat the Dealer and Blackjack bluebook.
I'm working on counting and can countdown two decks in about a minute and be able to tell the last two cards about 80% of the time.I enjoy playing and if I can mostly break even and maybe get a few comps out of an afternoon,thats great.
My biggest dislike is that in Ac,everyone tells you how to play,but most of them know less BS than I do.
Any and all advice is most appreciated.
I'm working on counting and can countdown two decks in about a minute and be able to tell the last two cards about 80% of the time.I enjoy playing and if I can mostly break even and maybe get a few comps out of an afternoon,thats great.
My biggest dislike is that in Ac,everyone tells you how to play,but most of them know less BS than I do.
Any and all advice is most appreciated.