Why it is Wrong to Count Cards

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djm

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Card counting is wrong for several reasons:
1. It makes blackjack less fun. Blackjack should be a GAME. When you
count cards it makes the game WORK and less FUN.
2. It threatens the casino's bankroll. Casinos in many parts of North
America are struggling to make ends meet. Cards counters have led many
casinos (including Binion's Horseshoe) into bankruptcy and closure.
3. To compensate, casinos have to change the rules. This hurts all
players. Card counters have cost casinos so much money at Blackjack
that they have been forced to reduce the payoff on Blackjack from 3:2
to 6:5. If card counters continue to ruin the game casinos could be
forced to remove Blackjack altogether!
Please don't count cards!

That's the kind of BS that casinos want you to beleive. Casinos in
fact make over 67% of their revenue from slot machines. Of the 37%
they make from table games, approximately 50% is from BJ. That means
that 18.5% of casino revenue comes from BJ. Only about 1% of BJ
players count cards. That means that BJ players will probably only
"threaten" .185% of the casino's bankroll!
The best card-counters will gain a 2% edge on the house. This means
that the OVERALL effect from card counters is .0037%.
 
Sonny

Sonny

Well-Known Member
I blame the ploppies, not the counters

Good post djm. I just have a few comments.

> Card counting is wrong for several reasons:
> 1. It makes blackjack less fun. Blackjack should be a GAME. When you
> count cards it makes the game WORK and less FUN.

Counting cards is EASY! Once you get the hang of it, it is almost like second nature. The count tells you exactly how much to bet and how to play your hands. This is MUCH easier than using your "inuition" to play. Not to mention the fact that is is more fun to win than it is to lose. Therefore, counting cards makes the game EASIER and MORE FUN!

> 2. It threatens the casino's bankroll. Casinos in many parts of North
> America are struggling to make ends meet. Cards counters have led many
> casinos (including Binion's Horseshoe) into bankruptcy and closure.

Card counters didn't bankrupt the Horseshoe, Becky Binion did. Next they'll be saying the card counters are responsible for the Silver Slipper closing!

> 3. To compensate, casinos have to change the rules. This hurts all
> players. Card counters have cost casinos so much money at Blackjack
> that they have been forced to reduce the payoff on Blackjack from 3:2
> to 6:5.

The casinos are greedy for more money, PERIOD! Even without card counters they would change the rules in order to get more money. Why do you think they vary the payouts for video poker? Why do you think they don't post the payouts of the slot machines at all? Why do you think they all offer American roulette instead of European?

> If card counters continue to ruin the game casinos could be forced to remove
> Blackjack altogether!

People have been counting cards in casinos for over 40 years. The casinos have know about it for over 40 years. The casinos know that they are still earning money from blackjack. In fact, they DID remove standard blackjack when Thorp's book came out, but they soon realized that they would still earn money from it. The only way that blackjack will die is if the ploppies keep ignorantly playing the 6:5 games. If it wasn't for the ploppies the 6:5 games would have been removed MONTHS AGO.

> Please don't count cards!

PLEASE DON'T BE A PLOPPY!

-Sonny-
 
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Victoria

Well-Known Member
It's just a game

Speaking for myself, when I play a game, I play to win.
If you play a game and know you have to loose, you are not going to continue playing unless you have some other problem.
Simply, it is a competition between you and the house, and winning is fun. The so called work. Well, anyone who has ever been good at any competition puts in tons of work to get to that level. An athelete, spelling bee champ, or a business exec, they did their homework and reap the rewards. To me that is enjoyable or fun.
Perhaps that is why I do not play other casino games except a little VP but do look at the pay tables first.
The fun is in the winning, much more than in the playing.
Victoria a girl who had to compete with three older brothers.
 
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