why you should play slot machines....

[sagefr0g]

grinding away at the blackjack table got you down?
take a break, play some penny slots for a short while.
you might win a million dollars.
then after you win the million go back to the grind....
you deserve a break today
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[shadroch]

Not to mention that casinos love slot players. A quarter slot player gets comps the $25 BJ player can only dream of.Even if you don't use a player card when playing BJ,run some money thru a slot using your card.

 

[sagefr0g]

Not to mention that casinos love slot players. A quarter slot player gets comps the $25 BJ player can only dream of.Even if you don't use a player card when playing BJ,run some money thru a slot using your card.

exactly and then if you get slots only comps you can turn around and run those through the slots. i wonder if when you do that if they comp you on using your comps. lol

 

[21forme]

exactly and then if you get slots only comps you can turn around and run those through the slots. i wonder if when you do that if they comp you on using your comps. lol

No, they don't. They know the difference, as you can't cash out free slot dollars, either.

 

[sagefr0g]

No, they don't. They know the difference, as you can't cash out free slot dollars, either.

the bastards think of everything.
and i take it you probably couldn't cash out the comp credits early either.

 

[shadroch]

That depends. Harrahs sometimes sends bounceback cash that you need to put into the machine,but you can cash out the whole amount. Other times,you need to play it out.

 

[Mr. T]

A friend of my is a heavy hitter in slots. While he was playing he was approached by a hostess and given VIp treatment and promised a free room anytime he is playing in their casino.
Looks like the slots machines must have some alert mechanism for heavy hitters. So I dont think all slot players are treated equally. And the penny slot players are not likely to get much Comps with the smart slot machines nowadays.

 

[shadroch]

A friend of my is a heavy hitter in slots. While he was playing he was approached by a hostess and given VIp treatment and promised a free room anytime he is playing in their casino.
Looks like the slots machines must have some alert mechanism for heavy hitters. So I dont think all slot players are treated equally. And the penny slot players are not likely to get much Comps with the smart slot machines nowadays.

There very may well be a huge difference how slot players are treated in Asia and in the USofA,but the vast majority of the posters here play in American casinos.I don't try to offer advice on getting comps in Asian or European casinos,as I have no experiance in them.

 

[blackchipjim]

big shot play

My friend is a very prolific slot player,fiftey cent, dollar and five dollar slots are his genre. He is comped very well and has obtained status that I would only dream about. He is able to cash back since our casino we visit has that option and his overall rating is excellent. I myself play vidio poker and have good sucess. I do it more for a mental break and cover on my bj game. I don't advocate slot play and work hard to steer friends to better games but they don't want to think about gambling and that's the purpose of slots. blackchipjim

 

[golfnut101]

slots are soooo boring though. I cant bring myself to press a button time after time, with no input. I play some 3 card poker for a bit of cover. Anyone else ?

 

[Mr. T]

There very may well be a huge difference how slot players are treated in Asia and in the USofA,but the vast majority of the posters here play in American casinos.I don't try to offer advice on getting comps in Asian or European casinos,as I have no experiance in them.

For your information the casino is Macau Sands an American operator.
You miss my point about these smart slot machines nowadays.
These machines can tell the casinos exactly what level of player you are.

 

[blackjack avenger]

Slots, Slots and Slots

Maybe some distinctions in this thread?:
1. positive EV slots or VP
2. negative EV slots or VP
3. positive EV slots or VP when counting cash or equivalent
4. positve EV slots when counting non cash comps
5. some combo of the above

I am sure there are others.

 

[Kasi]

slots are soooo boring though. I cant bring myself to press a button time after time, with no input. I play some 3 card poker for a bit of cover. Anyone else ?

Hate slots lol.

You play the Pair-Plus bet?

 

[shadroch]

A friend of my is a heavy hitter in slots. While he was playing he was approached by a hostess and given VIp treatment and promised a free room anytime he is playing in their casino.
Looks like the slots machines must have some alert mechanism for heavy hitters. So I dont think all slot players are treated equally. And the penny slot players are not likely to get much Comps with the smart slot machines nowadays.

Are we there yet?

 

[Mr. T]

A friend of my is a heavy hitter in slots. While he was playing he was approached by a hostess and given VIp treatment and promised a free room anytime he is playing in their casino.
Looks like the slots machines must have some alert mechanism for heavy hitters. So I dont think all slot players are treated equally. And the penny slot players are not likely to get much Comps with the smart slot machines nowadays.

Shadroch, there you go again.

This was my posting on April 3 and I said.

"And the penny slot players are not likely to get much Comps with the smart slot machines nowadays"

I did not say " that casinos don't comp penny slot players"

How can you go on accusing me of many misinformation and do it youself all the time.

 

[sagefr0g]

must be a lot of differant ways various casinos work it. i was comped some slot play cash where the ticket was redeemable before all the cash was played.
i have no idea how they are comping me. all i did was play some blackjacck and a penny slot for a dollar and i got these coupons in the mail.
paid off in this particular instance as i had a loss playing blackjack but the penny slot hit for virtually the same amount i'd lost at blackjack.

 

[Chapel]

I registered to reply to this post. I am a short time lurker of this forum.

Before I say anything else, I am going to say that slots are bad for your bottom line. As a stat professor of mine said, "Play nickel slots, you will never see money disappear so quickly in your life." To a large extent I agree with this. If you are in a group, play Craps because it is a team game in disguise. If you are by yourself, play Blackjack or poker or whatever your game of choice is.

That being said, you can gain an advantage on certain slots and video poker machines. Specifically, these are the slots that have progressive jackpots. For any machine there is a point where the progressive jackpot value swings the expected value of the machine positive. Then you simply pump money into the machine until you win the progressive. The disadvantages however are a huge mitigating factor in this. First, as the progressive gets larger, more people want to play. This decreases the chance that you will win the jackpot. Second, it requires a large enough bankroll to essentially 'buy the jackpot.' Third, for slots (not video poker) calculating the expected value in your head isn't always easy, especially if the chance of winning a certain prize is not explicitly listed on the machine. (For video poker, you can know all the odds going in so you just have to do a bit of multiplication.)

So there you go, a "strategy" for slots during your breaks from Blackjack. :joker:

 

[sagefr0g]

.....Before I say anything else, I am going to say that slots are bad for your bottom line. As a stat professor of mine said, "Play nickel slots, you will never see money disappear so quickly in your life." ...............So there you go, a "strategy" for slots during your breaks from Blackjack. :joker:

that's all something to think about. the one thing though and i don't as a rule play slots well excepting for the penny slots. i figure the odds or payout and percent payback has probably got to be maybe the worst on these machines. truthfully i don't know for sure.
but what i wanted to comment on was it's been my experience that for the penny slots just playing one line and one cent on that line you can last a fairly long time. one or one and a half hours for a dollar has been my experience. not really trying to win anything just trying to look like a gambler and take a break from the tables with some completely mindless activity is all.

 

[Chapel]

that's all something to think about. the one thing though and i don't as a rule play slots well excepting for the penny slots. i figure the odds or payout and percent payback has probably got to be maybe the worst on these machines. truthfully i don't know for sure.
but what i wanted to comment on was it's been my experience that for the penny slots just playing one line and one cent on that line you can last a fairly long time. one or one and a half hours for a dollar has been my experience. not really trying to win anything just trying to look like a gambler and take a break from the tables with some completely mindless activity is all.

I'm with you on all of that. There is still way too much gambling involved with that slot strategy for me.

A casino in Atlantic City was offering a $10 Macy's gift card for playing slots for a half an hour with a players card. Figured $2 on penny slots was good enough for that. Ended up walking away up 8 cents with my $10 Macy's card. (Which was promptly stolen by my girlfriend...)

 

[Unshake]

slots are soooo boring though. I cant bring myself to press a button time after time, with no input. I play some 3 card poker for a bit of cover. Anyone else ?

Although slots may be boring the house edge on three card poker is considerably higher than a good slot machine. The ante bet has ~3% house edge and the pairs plus is even higher ...sometimes near 8% (both depend on given casino's pay table). Not to mention you are forced to be at least $5 while playing 3 card poker. In my opinion, at least economically, slots are generally a better cover... Unless you can somewhat consistently hole card 3 card poker...