www.BJ21.com worth paying for?

ArcticInferno

Well-Known Member
This forum is great, but I was wondering how many of you also subscribe
to http://www.BJ21.com and pay $14.75/3 months. Or pay $59/yr.
How is that forum different from this forum?
Quality of posts? Quality of responses? Level of professionalism? Level of expertise?
Basically,... is that worth paying for?
 

FLASH1296

Well-Known Member
YES it is worth it.

… for the reasons that you cite

I have been a member there for many years.

Try it for ¼ year and decide for yourself.
 

Deathclutch

Well-Known Member
I'm a member of both, and personally I prefer this site, but there is most definitely a wealth of information over there.
 

SleightOfHand

Well-Known Member
While the other website probably has better responses, I was never a fan of the format the forum is in. Much more confusing and difficult to go through past threads.
 

Deathclutch

Well-Known Member
SleightOfHand said:
While the other website probably has better responses, I was never a fan of the format the forum is in. Much more confusing and difficult to go through past threads.
This I agree with 100%.
 

StandardDeviant

Well-Known Member
Call me paranoid, but I don't like to give my actual identity to a site (in order to pay) and then proceed to go into detail about my advantage play in the forums.

I also like the format here better as others have noted.

I'll bet there is a lot of valuable info there, however.
 
Standard

StandardDeviant said:
Call me paranoid, but I don't like to give my actual identity to a site (in order to pay) and then proceed to go into detail about my advantage play in the forums.

I also like the format here better as others have noted.

I'll bet there is a lot of valuable info there, however.
I think if you attend chats here you will really get the inside scoop on things.

On a pay site people will generally give out more info, if this had a pay section it would be just as informative, but the chat here has been extremely valuable often.

Try it for a year and see how you like it, but don't expect the top players there to spill their guts. There are casino lurkers there for sure and Wong could care less. I think our chats here are far more secure.

I was a member there for a few years and was dissapointed after a time.

CP
 

StandardDeviant

Well-Known Member
creeping panther said:
I think our chats here are far more secure.
I couldn't agree more. This site is far more secure, and I believe there is a tremendous amount of experience and skill here just for the asking. What better deal could anyone hope for? :)
 

prankster

Well-Known Member
My subscription lasted about 3 days. Couldn't get anything there that isn't here. As stated earlier this format is less confusing. :joker:
 

ExhibitCAA

Well-Known Member
I don't think the question is which site is better, or which site is the better value. Sure, it's hard to beat the value here, since this site has good, free information, but the two sites are not mutually exclusive.

Is bj21 necessary for someone who partipates at bjinfo?--No.
Do I read bj21 every day?--No.
Is bj21 worth the $60?--Absolutely.

The chats at bj21 are not the strong suit, but there are a number of posters there who don't participate here (not sure why), and the forum is liquid and also read by casino personnel (hence good for pros to keep an eye on).
 

Jack_Black

Well-Known Member
why don't casino personnel check up on this site? Or maybe they are, and we just don't know it? Kind of like aliens from another planet, hiding their true identities with their high tech gizmos to extract information about our species to exterminate us or interbreed with us. Hoping for the latter.

I digress, I watched that documentary, "the hot shoe" and it looks like Stanford throws BJ Bash like events for patrons of his site. He and other notables show up and you get to "shoot the ****" with them. Can anyone with a subscription confirm this?
 

StandardDeviant

Well-Known Member
Jack_Black said:
why don't casino personnel check up on this site? Or maybe they are, and we just don't know it?
I assume they are reading our every word, but maybe not. I expect they would think there is not that much value for them here. They think they already know how to catch counters: correlate bets with counts.
 

FLASH1296

Well-Known Member
Jack Black, Standard Deviant, et al

Yes Casino Personnel scour online BJ sites.

Yes Stanford Wong throws his annual "Blackjack Ball"

I have my invite, but will be unable to attend.

Those in attendance include most of the big names in BJ.

Invites are only to trusted long-term members who are known personally to others who vouch for them.

"The Las Vegas Bear", who manages PiYee Press on a day to day basis, is the contact person.
 

Pro21

Well-Known Member
Flash, I think you are confusing the Blackjack Ball with Green Chip parties.

The BJ Ball is thrown once per year by Max Rubin.
 

QFIT

Well-Known Member
Well, obviously both Max's and Stanford's parties have people that have worked for casinos in attendance, since Max and Stanford are in attendance.:)
 
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