ZG ---UBZ2
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Re: UBZ2
www.rge21.com <---they sell it... I ordered it and I really like it. Though it's a level-2 count, I don't need to convert to TC, which saves a lot of energy, more than makes up for counting 2's. You can also do a search for UBZ, unbalanced zen, UBZII coupled with the would "count" or "blackjack" or "George C" and it should hit. I think the book is a little lacking on a few indices (he only gives you about 20), and you'll need to find somewhere (a lot of places have it) that has basic strategy for the prospective games you want. I suggest you buy CVCX or SBA to run some sims and get some more indices as well as the BS for the rules and decks you play.
www.rge21.com <---they sell it... I ordered it and I really like it. Though it's a level-2 count, I don't need to convert to TC, which saves a lot of energy, more than makes up for counting 2's. You can also do a search for UBZ, unbalanced zen, UBZII coupled with the would "count" or "blackjack" or "George C" and it should hit. I think the book is a little lacking on a few indices (he only gives you about 20), and you'll need to find somewhere (a lot of places have it) that has basic strategy for the prospective games you want. I suggest you buy CVCX or SBA to run some sims and get some more indices as well as the BS for the rules and decks you play.
Rob McGarvey
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Re: UBZ2
The only thing I can find by GC is here:
(Dead link: http://rge21.safeshopper.com/3/1.htm)?
40 pages, 40 beans.
I am not sure if it includes UBZII or not. I can take a look at SBA tonight and see if it is in the list of counts and fire off a sim for you if you wish. 1 2 6 or 8 deck?
The only thing I can find by GC is here:
(Dead link: http://rge21.safeshopper.com/3/1.htm)?
40 pages, 40 beans.
I am not sure if it includes UBZII or not. I can take a look at SBA tonight and see if it is in the list of counts and fire off a sim for you if you wish. 1 2 6 or 8 deck?
Rob McGarvey
Well-Known Member
Re: UBZ2
Here is the link to the UBZII.
(Dead link: http://rge21.safeshopper.com/3/403.htm)?
$20
tnx
Here is the link to the UBZII.
(Dead link: http://rge21.safeshopper.com/3/403.htm)?
$20
tnx
zengrifter
Banned
Re: UBZ2 THE IRONY
The ironic-beauty of UBZ is that it requires neither TCadjusts nor Ace-betting adjusts, yet compared to AO2 or HO2 users that only deploy top20 or so i#s and the rudimentry Ace adjusts, UBZ will perform on par with those typical of practioers of those systems - so UBZ2 is a SMARTER choice than ZEN even for a novice. And, UBZ can be evolved upwards with an increase of i#s, TCadjust, and even side-counts - the resultant 'TUBZ' is a hybrid unbalanced/TC'd system with a higher SCORE than ZEN.
I recommend that interested parties purchase UBZ directly from its author GeoC - [email protected] , or from gamblersboockclub.com (you may need to email them.
Cyrano, can you create a simple conversion for us whereby us ZEN users can understand the the corellation between the 2 systems counts? zg
The ironic-beauty of UBZ is that it requires neither TCadjusts nor Ace-betting adjusts, yet compared to AO2 or HO2 users that only deploy top20 or so i#s and the rudimentry Ace adjusts, UBZ will perform on par with those typical of practioers of those systems - so UBZ2 is a SMARTER choice than ZEN even for a novice. And, UBZ can be evolved upwards with an increase of i#s, TCadjust, and even side-counts - the resultant 'TUBZ' is a hybrid unbalanced/TC'd system with a higher SCORE than ZEN.
I recommend that interested parties purchase UBZ directly from its author GeoC - [email protected] , or from gamblersboockclub.com (you may need to email them.
Cyrano, can you create a simple conversion for us whereby us ZEN users can understand the the corellation between the 2 systems counts? zg
Re: UBZ2 THE IRONY
**I'm not sure I quite understand what do you mean by "simple conversion". Like, the Pivot point for the UBZ vs. the pivot for Zen? Please explain.
**Currently, I'm running sims on rounding the matrix numbers (per George C. in the intro) so instead of learning 50 different numbers for deviation of BS, I only need 3-4 (grouped sets are so much easier to remember)--SD and DD games.
Cyrano, can you create a simple conversion for us whereby us ZEN users can understand the the corellation between the 2 systems counts?
**I'm not sure I quite understand what do you mean by "simple conversion". Like, the Pivot point for the UBZ vs. the pivot for Zen? Please explain.
**Currently, I'm running sims on rounding the matrix numbers (per George C. in the intro) so instead of learning 50 different numbers for deviation of BS, I only need 3-4 (grouped sets are so much easier to remember)--SD and DD games.
Cyrano, can you create a simple conversion for us whereby us ZEN users can understand the the corellation between the 2 systems counts?
Re: UBZ2
UBZ2 isn't in SBA. For your info, here's a comparison... http://www.qfit.com/cvstrat.htm
Here's another place you can order from:
http://www.bjrnet.com/shop/blackjackreports.htm
UBZ2 isn't in SBA. For your info, here's a comparison... http://www.qfit.com/cvstrat.htm
Here's another place you can order from:
http://www.bjrnet.com/shop/blackjackreports.htm
zengrifter
Banned
Re: UBZ2 THE IRONY
I'd like to know count-correlates, such as +10UBZ= +_ZEN, etc. zg
I'd like to know count-correlates, such as +10UBZ= +_ZEN, etc. zg
zengrifter
Banned
Buy it direct from GeoC...
...so you receive the booklet and a first inquiry-relationship with GeoC. zg
...so you receive the booklet and a first inquiry-relationship with GeoC. zg
Re: UBZ2 THE IRONY
I'm not sure how accurate this would be, since we're comparing a TC to a RC. Because of this, I decided to sim SD, since that's probably the closest.
On 20M Hands: SD no DAS, D/10-11
UBZ Zen
Count Edge Edge
-3 -1.67 -1.26
-2 -1.50 -0.81
-1 -1.05 -0.63
0 -0.45 -0.29
1 -0.22 0.24
2 0.12 0.50
3 0.69 0.86
4 0.92 1.33
5 1.32 1.72
6 1.82 1.92
7 2.21 2.42
It's similar... UBZ's edge per each count is slightly lower though, for UBZ, you play more hands at various counts, where ZEN plays more hands near the O.
I'm not sure how accurate this would be, since we're comparing a TC to a RC. Because of this, I decided to sim SD, since that's probably the closest.
On 20M Hands: SD no DAS, D/10-11
UBZ Zen
Count Edge Edge
-3 -1.67 -1.26
-2 -1.50 -0.81
-1 -1.05 -0.63
0 -0.45 -0.29
1 -0.22 0.24
2 0.12 0.50
3 0.69 0.86
4 0.92 1.33
5 1.32 1.72
6 1.82 1.92
7 2.21 2.42
It's similar... UBZ's edge per each count is slightly lower though, for UBZ, you play more hands at various counts, where ZEN plays more hands near the O.