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As bad as the 6:5 payout on blackjack is, it’s still far better than doubling down on the blackjack by treating is as an eleven. The 6:5 is a sure thing, but if you double, you might lose or push the hand. You would be amazed how expensive that possibility is. (6:5 pays $12 on a $10 blackjack, while doubling the bet to $20 yields only $6.82 profit on average! That’s a HUGE difference. And that’s assuming the dealer has a 6 up, the best possible scenario.)
It’s time for a blog post on this topic, as I’ve heard quite a few players mention this idea. In the meantime, don’t do it! Growl at the dealer if you must, but let him pay you the 6:5.
As a “Skilled player” according to the casinos in AC, I would have to agree with you about Mr. Third Base taking the dealers break card. Countless times (no pun intended), I have tried to explain to people at the table that the shoe has no memory of who goes in & out at the table. There have been times when at Third base I will wave a hit with a hand five, deuce against the dealers Ten. People look at me in astonishment after the dealer shows 5 in the hole & breaks with a ten. Even if I can put the hole card on a low number, it doesn’t mean I will always prevail. One of my best observations is that everyone wants instant gratification on every hand. My favorite saying to other players flipping out because of non book moves, is to remember that there are no seat belts on the stools.
When gaining an advantage using basic strategy as outlined here, what role does tipping play? I doubt if a player who tips can still have a positive expectation. Thank you, Ken.
You’re right. A player’s edge in this case is small enough that tips are going to eliminate the advantage. At most, you might consider a $1 tip after each blackjack. If you’re looking for a net positive result, tipping is quite expensive to that goal.
Am I saying you should not tip? No, because everyone has different goals and expectations at the table. But it’s also wise to be aware that you are paying the dealer for something if you tip, and it isn’t your cards. It’s for the experience at the table. But if your main goal is getting an edge, anything over minimal tipping is going to make that impossible if you are a basic strategy player.
What I mean is easier per dollar earned. Here are a few possibilities: Hole carding table games, Video poker play for free play coupons, Promotions, Drawings. The edge in each of those is usually much higher than card counting. The trick is they require different skills, and often a lot of scouting. But when you do find an opportunity, you will have a bigger edge and much lower risk.
En primer lugar, permítanme decir que siempre uso este sitio para afinar mis habilidades antes de crucero / juego. Estoy muy por delante del juego después de los últimos 7 años ... ¡Gracias!
En segundo lugar, en el último crucero que hice... el mes pasado... no pude contar las cartas porque las volvían a meter en la máquina constantemente. ¡Lástima, ya que yo era un contador de cartas decente! 8o)) ¿Alguna sugerencia?
Ah, el azote de las máquinas de barajar continuo. En un crucero no es raro verlas en todas las mesas. Como teme, las tácticas de conteo de cartas son inútiles en esa situación. Ocasionalmente puedes encontrarte con un crupier que no vuelva a poner inmediatamente los descartes en el barajador, pero la información menor que puedas obtener no compensará la ventaja básica de la casa en el juego.
Tenga en cuenta que aún es posible "vencer" a este juego consiguiendo que le compensen más gastos de crucero que la pérdida prevista en el juego. Yo no he explotado este ángulo, así que no sé hasta qué punto es práctico.
No te creas que te pueden compensar los gastos del crucero. No lo he probado, pero como hay que pagar por adelantado... Las compañías de cruceros también son famosas por su egoísmo a la hora de regalar algo.
Your strategy chart shows us 16vsT and 16vsA are SR. I know it. Why are pair of 8’s vsT and pair of 8’s vsA H? Basic strategy charts of other sites show us SR. I’m sorry, my English is not good.
Grrr. I made a small change in the logic of how the No Peek chart displays its results back in August, and I broke this. I simply MUST restructure this code so it is easier to work with without causing problems. I’ll correct this within the next few days.
But, yes, in the 6D LS No Peek game, you should surrender 88vT and 88vA. Sorry for the trouble.
In regards to Michael losing $3k in a matter of minutes @ the MGM, how much was he betting $1000 a hand? I am no card counter but I have played Black Jack since 1978 in Vegas and many casinos around the country. Michael had a lot of complaints and when you lose everything is wrong or bothering you.
I see as everyone else that most people do not know how to play much less know how to bet. Blackjack is a game of patience you have to start with a “base bet” every single time and build up from there on your winning streaks. I see players betting $25 or $50 lose 5 or 6 in a row and then bet $300 and lose again now what’s your next bet $600? a quick way to go down. Or the player who after losing 5 in a row is now winning play after play but does not raise their bet, how will you get your money back or get a big win if you do not build on your base bet? or the player who has won several stacked bets in a row and 5 or 6 hands later reduces the bet to table minimum anticipating a loss.
As for the green or chicken players who make mistakes non stop, your hand can go either way, I do not give advice at the table or correct people’s mistakes because the next time they play it right we may lose again! I do like a “no mid shoe” table overall.
ok thank you very much, and in this Special Situation: i have hard 12 against a Dealers 3 and there are many 9s and 8s out of the shoe, always hit or is it possibile to stay in this Situation??
Yes, 12v3 is a basic strategy hit, but the deck composition doesn’t have to change much to make standing better. In fact, many decisions can be subject to these kinds of strategy variations. For detail on how this is handled in card counting systems, see these references: The instructions for my advanced card set include a brief explanation: https://www.blackjackinfo.com/card/advanced-strategy-cards.php Or, the free blackjack school covers it in depth: https://www.blackjackinfo.com/blackjack-school The relevant section starts at Lesson 13 – The Advanced Course.
As bad as the 6:5 payout on blackjack is, it’s still far better than doubling down on the blackjack by treating is as an eleven. The 6:5 is a sure thing, but if you double, you might lose or push the hand. You would be amazed how expensive that possibility is. (6:5 pays $12 on a $10 blackjack, while doubling the bet to $20 yields only $6.82 profit on average! That’s a HUGE difference. And that’s assuming the dealer has a 6 up, the best possible scenario.)
It’s time for a blog post on this topic, as I’ve heard quite a few players mention this idea. In the meantime, don’t do it! Growl at the dealer if you must, but let him pay you the 6:5.
The 6:5 double down debacle is now documented here: https://www.blackjackinfo.com/blog/double-down-on-a-65-blackjack-read-this-first/
Ken,
As a “Skilled player” according to the casinos in AC, I would have to agree with you about Mr. Third Base taking the dealers break card. Countless times (no pun intended), I have tried to explain to people at the table that the shoe has no memory of who goes in & out at the table. There have been times when at Third base I will wave a hit with a hand five, deuce against the dealers Ten. People look at me in astonishment after the dealer shows 5 in the hole & breaks with a ten. Even if I can put the hole card on a low number, it doesn’t mean I will always prevail. One of my best observations is that everyone wants instant gratification on every hand. My favorite saying to other players flipping out because of non book moves, is to remember that there are no seat belts on the stools.
When gaining an advantage using basic strategy as outlined here, what role does tipping play? I doubt if a player who tips can still have a positive expectation.
Thank you, Ken.
You’re right. A player’s edge in this case is small enough that tips are going to eliminate the advantage. At most, you might consider a $1 tip after each blackjack. If you’re looking for a net positive result, tipping is quite expensive to that goal.
Am I saying you should not tip? No, because everyone has different goals and expectations at the table. But it’s also wise to be aware that you are paying the dealer for something if you tip, and it isn’t your cards. It’s for the experience at the table. But if your main goal is getting an edge, anything over minimal tipping is going to make that impossible if you are a basic strategy player.
Ken – “And, there are also easier ways to make money in the casino.”
Such as?
What I mean is easier per dollar earned.
Here are a few possibilities: Hole carding table games, Video poker play for free play coupons, Promotions, Drawings.
The edge in each of those is usually much higher than card counting. The trick is they require different skills, and often a lot of scouting.
But when you do find an opportunity, you will have a bigger edge and much lower risk.
En primer lugar, permítanme decir que siempre uso este sitio para afinar mis habilidades antes de crucero / juego. Estoy muy por delante del juego después de los últimos 7 años ... ¡Gracias!
En segundo lugar, en el último crucero que hice... el mes pasado... no pude contar las cartas porque las volvían a meter en la máquina constantemente. ¡Lástima, ya que yo era un contador de cartas decente! 8o))
¿Alguna sugerencia?
De nuevo... ¡GRACIAS!
Gracias por las amables palabras sobre el sitio.
Ah, el azote de las máquinas de barajar continuo. En un crucero no es raro verlas en todas las mesas.
Como teme, las tácticas de conteo de cartas son inútiles en esa situación. Ocasionalmente puedes encontrarte con un crupier que no vuelva a poner inmediatamente los descartes en el barajador, pero la información menor que puedas obtener no compensará la ventaja básica de la casa en el juego.
Tenga en cuenta que aún es posible "vencer" a este juego consiguiendo que le compensen más gastos de crucero que la pérdida prevista en el juego.
Yo no he explotado este ángulo, así que no sé hasta qué punto es práctico.
No te creas que te pueden compensar los gastos del crucero. No lo he probado, pero como hay que pagar por adelantado... Las compañías de cruceros también son famosas por su egoísmo a la hora de regalar algo.
6decks,S17,DAS,Late Surrender,No Peek
Your strategy chart shows us 16vsT and 16vsA are SR.
I know it. Why are pair of 8’s vsT and pair of 8’s vsA H?
Basic strategy charts of other sites show us SR.
I’m sorry, my English is not good.
Grrr. I made a small change in the logic of how the No Peek chart displays its results back in August, and I broke this.
I simply MUST restructure this code so it is easier to work with without causing problems.
I’ll correct this within the next few days.
But, yes, in the 6D LS No Peek game, you should surrender 88vT and 88vA.
Sorry for the trouble.
In regards to Michael losing $3k in a matter of minutes @ the MGM, how much was he betting $1000 a hand? I am no card counter but I have played Black Jack since 1978 in Vegas and many casinos around the country. Michael had a lot of complaints and when you lose everything is wrong or bothering you.
I see as everyone else that most people do not know how to play much less know how to bet. Blackjack is a game of patience you have to start with a “base bet” every single time and build up from there on your winning streaks. I see players betting $25 or $50 lose 5 or 6 in a row and then bet $300 and lose again now what’s your next bet $600? a quick way to go down. Or the player who after losing 5 in a row is now winning play after play but does not raise their bet, how will you get your money back or get a big win if you do not build on your base bet? or the player who has won several stacked bets in a row and 5 or 6 hands later reduces the bet to table minimum anticipating a loss.
As for the green or chicken players who make mistakes non stop, your hand can go either way, I do not give advice at the table or correct people’s mistakes because the next time they play it right we may lose again! I do like a “no mid shoe” table overall.
Rule of 6 typo. One player gets five not six
Oops! You’re right of course. Thanks Lone Ranger for the correction. I’ve fixed the post now, so it correctly says that one player gets 5 rounds.
I just started blackjack in casinos last week. Thanks for all the tips.
and in a european game with early surrender, also stay with 3-Card 16 vs. 10??
Yes, you should stand with 3-or-more-card 16 vs 10 in the game you describe.
ok thank you very much, and in this Special Situation: i have hard 12 against a Dealers 3 and there are many 9s and 8s out of the shoe, always hit or is it possibile to stay in this Situation??
Yes, 12v3 is a basic strategy hit, but the deck composition doesn’t have to change much to make standing better.
In fact, many decisions can be subject to these kinds of strategy variations.
For detail on how this is handled in card counting systems, see these references:
The instructions for my advanced card set include a brief explanation: https://www.blackjackinfo.com/card/advanced-strategy-cards.php
Or, the free blackjack school covers it in depth: https://www.blackjackinfo.com/blackjack-school
The relevant section starts at Lesson 13 – The Advanced Course.