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I have seen it again and again ….. same guy who hurts you is the same guy that he busts the dealer and all players win.the best advice is never say an opinion if someone ask you to hit or stand !
Yes, you are right that Flash is dying. My development of the new mobile-friendly HTML5 version has been stalled a bit while my family prepares to move this summer. After that I’ll be back on the job of replacing the current trainer with a new non-Flash version with tons of new features.
And yes, I get about an equal number of complaints about the game being rigged to be too easy and too hard. Players who are new to the game just don’t realize how long a lucky or unlucky streak can last. 🙂
It sounds like you have it backwards. Bet as little as possible in negative counts, and make your big bets in positive counts. Don’t worry about spreading to multiple hands yet, until you are proficient at the basics.
No ken maybe i didnt posted corect.i ment when the tc is negative should the table have more bases so u can get rid off the low cards and when the tc is high to close as much u can tbe bases so to have full avantage of the high cards?when the tc is minus ofcorse u try to keep your bet al low u can
Playing more spots in a negative count means making more minimum bets in a negative situation, and is not justified. Generally you would be better off with more spots in high counts, but it can depend on how close you are to the shuffle point among other things. I recommend just one spot regardless of the count until you are familiar enough with the game to run your own simulations to optimize multiple hands. The factors are not always obvious. In my own play, I almost always play only one spot. The main exceptions are when I am playing some kind of promotion.
How do i calculate my true count if my casino only lets about 20 cards in the discard then puts it back in the shoe?I can calculate running count but not true count.I think it is a 6 deck game i am not sure,and how do i determine how many decks the casino uses.
To find out how many decks are in play, there are two reasonable choices. The easy one is to ask the dealer. The harder way is to be present at the table when they change the cards in the machine, and see how many decks are involved.
But the games you describe (using a continuous shuffle machine) are useless for card counting. Consider that you’ll need to reset your running count to zero every time they empty the discard tray. Let’s say in the first 20 cards you get an amazing running count of +11. That’s still not even a true count of +2, because you need to divide +11 by the number of decks waiting to be dealt (more than 5.5 decks, since 6 decks less 26 cards would be 5.5 decks, and we’ve only used up 20 instead of 26 cards.)
In short, don’t waste your time counting cards in this game. If you must play it, basic strategy is the best you can do, and you cannot get a long-term edge over the game.
The true count is always calculated by dividing the running count by the number of unseen decks that could yet be dealt. In a continuous shuffle machine game where only 20 cards are in the discard at most, that means your effective penetration is extremely low. Let’s say that 26 cards were in the discard tray, in a six-deck game. That means 5.5 decks are unseen. A running count of +11 would translate to a true count of +11/5.5 = +2. And you’ll need to reset the running count as soon as the
This sucks,how can it be possible that my casino in south africa is more prepared against card counting than the more advanced countries.I understand what you are saying this really sucks basic strategy isn’t going to bring the profits.
I just also want to ask how do i know if they use a csm or asm for shuffling and will i still be able to have that edge in counting if they use a asm?Sorry for all the questions i am a student that is really interested in this and would like to invest lots of time and practice counting.
An ASM (automatic shuffling machine) will use a standard discard tray, where most of the cards will be used. Then, all 6+ decks are put into the machine for a shuffle. It’s just a replacement for hand-shuffling after the shoe is used up.
A CSM (continuous shuffle machine) is constantly shuffling the cards between each hand. Used cards are usually accumulated only during the course of a hand, then immediately put back into the machine and shuffled back into the mix.
Card counting works fine with an ASM. In fact, because there is less downtime between shoes, it is a good thing.
A CSM on the other hand makes counting useless.
Hi Ken.
I had stated my plan earlier, $2500 Bank, $20 at TC+1 up to $50 at TC+4 on $10 min. table. You had said this is a reasonable approach, but after re-reviewing this lesson would it be more reasonable to wait until TC+2 before going to $20 as if I’m correct TC+1 would be even with the casino. My thinking on this is that the bank would last longer if there’s a negative streak.
Thanks,
Glen
I have seen it again and again ….. same guy who hurts you is the same guy that he busts the dealer and all players win.the best advice is never say an opinion if someone ask you to hit or stand !
this site fun but flash is dying and is no longer on my systems.
Others say the system is rigged, it isn’t is it.
I’ve playing for 50 years and the house is supposed to win otherwise it wouldn’t be in a casino.
Yes, you are right that Flash is dying. My development of the new mobile-friendly HTML5 version has been stalled a bit while my family prepares to move this summer. After that I’ll be back on the job of replacing the current trainer with a new non-Flash version with tons of new features.
And yes, I get about an equal number of complaints about the game being rigged to be too easy and too hard. Players who are new to the game just don’t realize how long a lucky or unlucky streak can last. 🙂
hi, ive been told going in and out favors the dealer… was wondering if that’s true and why..
No, adding or removing hands does not “favor the dealer”. That’s another common myth.
Ken if the true count is minus enough the answer is to open more bases?and the oposite to close and play as much less when the tc is plus ?
It sounds like you have it backwards. Bet as little as possible in negative counts, and make your big bets in positive counts. Don’t worry about spreading to multiple hands yet, until you are proficient at the basics.
No ken maybe i didnt posted corect.i ment when the tc is negative should the table have more bases so u can get rid off the low cards and when the tc is high to close as much u can tbe bases so to have full avantage of the high cards?when the tc is minus ofcorse u try to keep your bet al low u can
Playing more spots in a negative count means making more minimum bets in a negative situation, and is not justified. Generally you would be better off with more spots in high counts, but it can depend on how close you are to the shuffle point among other things. I recommend just one spot regardless of the count until you are familiar enough with the game to run your own simulations to optimize multiple hands. The factors are not always obvious. In my own play, I almost always play only one spot. The main exceptions are when I am playing some kind of promotion.
How do i calculate my true count if my casino only lets about 20 cards in the discard then puts it back in the shoe?I can calculate running count but not true count.I think it is a 6 deck game i am not sure,and how do i determine how many decks the casino uses.
To find out how many decks are in play, there are two reasonable choices. The easy one is to ask the dealer. The harder way is to be present at the table when they change the cards in the machine, and see how many decks are involved.
But the games you describe (using a continuous shuffle machine) are useless for card counting. Consider that you’ll need to reset your running count to zero every time they empty the discard tray. Let’s say in the first 20 cards you get an amazing running count of +11. That’s still not even a true count of +2, because you need to divide +11 by the number of decks waiting to be dealt (more than 5.5 decks, since 6 decks less 26 cards would be 5.5 decks, and we’ve only used up 20 instead of 26 cards.)
In short, don’t waste your time counting cards in this game. If you must play it, basic strategy is the best you can do, and you cannot get a long-term edge over the game.
The true count is always calculated by dividing the running count by the number of unseen decks that could yet be dealt. In a continuous shuffle machine game where only 20 cards are in the discard at most, that means your effective penetration is extremely low. Let’s say that 26 cards were in the discard tray, in a six-deck game. That means 5.5 decks are unseen. A running count of +11 would translate to a true count of +11/5.5 = +2. And you’ll need to reset the running count as soon as the
This sucks,how can it be possible that my casino in south africa is more prepared against card counting than the more advanced countries.I understand what you are saying this really sucks basic strategy isn’t going to bring the profits.
I just also want to ask how do i know if they use a csm or asm for shuffling and will i still be able to have that edge in counting if they use a asm?Sorry for all the questions i am a student that is really interested in this and would like to invest lots of time and practice counting.
An ASM (automatic shuffling machine) will use a standard discard tray, where most of the cards will be used. Then, all 6+ decks are put into the machine for a shuffle. It’s just a replacement for hand-shuffling after the shoe is used up.
A CSM (continuous shuffle machine) is constantly shuffling the cards between each hand. Used cards are usually accumulated only during the course of a hand, then immediately put back into the machine and shuffled back into the mix.
Card counting works fine with an ASM. In fact, because there is less downtime between shoes, it is a good thing.
A CSM on the other hand makes counting useless.
Thanks will let you know if i have any luck thanks for the lessons
Hi Ken.
I had stated my plan earlier, $2500 Bank, $20 at TC+1 up to $50 at TC+4 on $10 min. table. You had said this is a reasonable approach, but after re-reviewing this lesson would it be more reasonable to wait until TC+2 before going to $20 as if I’m correct TC+1 would be even with the casino. My thinking on this is that the bank would last longer if there’s a negative streak.
Thanks,
Glen
Ok ken.thanks
See the mention of “N0” a couple of answers above. That’s the mathematical way of determining how many hands it takes to reach the long run.
I am pretty sure that card counters are all good to work like pit bosses but not the other way around!
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