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Dans les casinos en ligne, on a l'avantage de pouvoir compter à rebours (jeux à 8 jeux).
the question is which is prefered, to back count and wait till the true count is high (say +3 or higher) and only then start betting, but then, you only play low number of hands per shoe. Or to play acroos the entire show, where you can play many more hands per shoe ?
Spliting 8s against a ten? Isnt that a sucker play? I mean your going up against the highest card a dealer can have isnt that just asking for punishment?
This hand is ugly no matter what you do, but it is definitely better to split here.
If you hit the pair of 8s against a dealer ten, you’ll lose about $5.35 on a $10 bet on average.
If you stand, you’ll average a loss of $5.37.
If you split and put another $10 bet up, the average combined loss on the two (or more!) hands is $4.75.
Basic strategy is a game of pennies. You play every hand in the way that wins the most on average, or in this case, loses the least.
Split ’em.
Dans les casinos en ligne, on a l'avantage de pouvoir compter à rebours (jeux à 8 jeux).
La question est de savoir ce qui est préférable, de compter à rebours et d'attendre que le compte réel soit élevé (disons +3 ou plus) et de ne commencer à miser qu'ensuite, mais alors, vous ne jouez qu'un petit nombre de mains par chaussure. Ou jouer sur l'ensemble du sabot, ce qui permet de jouer beaucoup plus de mains par sabot ?
Désolé, je pensais avoir répondu à cette question plus tôt. J'ai dû oublier de cliquer sur Répondre.
Il n'y a aucun avantage à jouer plus de mains par sabot si ces mains ont une espérance négative.
Vos résultats seront toujours meilleurs si vous pouvez vous limiter à parier uniquement dans des situations positives.
Et pour être rentable, vous devez miser très peu ou pas du tout dans les comptes pairs ou négatifs.
Entrer dans ces jeux seulement à TC +3 ou plus vous donnera un bon pourcentage de profit, mais vous regarderez beaucoup plus de mains que vous n'en jouerez. Je commencerais probablement à +2, mais cela dépend de votre bankroll.
I have 3 questions regarding splits. The 8,8 v 10; 4,4 v 5 (6); and A, A vAce
I recently had a shoe that went to TC5+ and had max bets over 2 boxes. The first box produced a split and double. Which in turn produced another double. The second box produced a split and double also. The count had now come down to TC3+. The split was 8.8 and dealer was 10. Would u believe it, the split produced 2 more spits each being 8,8. I split one more time and decided I had too much money on the table and just stuck the final 8,8. My sessional roll just about contained all these splits and doubles but my nerves ran out as I decided it was too much. Should the correct play be to keep splitting 8,8s v 10 so long as sessional bank could contain it? This is UK rules.
First, 88vT in UK rules is not a split, because of the risk that a dealer blackjack could wipe out all your multiple bets.
But I’ll answer your real question assuming that the circumstance at hand is an appropriate split…
Mathematically yes, you should continue to split as long as that is the correct strategy. But it is not unreasonable to decide at some point that the risk is too high. If you are concerned about the session bankroll, it is not terribly expensive to decide to limit your exposure on a single hand. In my opinion, you should always be willing to put at least four bets at risk on a hand. If you’re not comfortable with that, your bankroll is not big enough. But beyond four bets, use your discretion.
On a flat shoe and European game, DAS, 4,4 v 5 (6) is a split. I hate this move and I split. From my probability charts a 4 v 6 less chance of winning than 8 v 6. So why is the BS move to split?
It’s often difficult to show a specific reason for the basic strategy of a particular hand. In this case, you’ll just win very slightly more by splitting (and making any possible resplits or double downs), than if you just hit the 44v6 hand. You really can’t just use probability of win charts unless you take into account all the downstream possibilities, and also the percentage chance of a push on any of the multiple hands. It’s complicated to figure manually, which is why combinatorial analysis software is used to determine the optimal strategy.
In the European and UK game, where dealer has no peek at his hole card, if the player has A,A v A and splits, then obtaining 2 x 21’s, the dealer gets a natural and wins all the splits. It is for this reason that a very experienced pro said A,A is not a split. However, another source says to split anyway since the split A’s are strong enough to warrant it.
The vast majority of books on BJ are not written with enough consideration for European/UK rules.
What do you suggest please?
Against the UK no-hole-card game, do not put more money on the tables against a dealer ten or Ace, with one exception. Still split Aces against a dealer ten. My Moteur de stratégie with the “No Peek” setting will show you the correct strategy.
Basic strategy is, by definition, the mathematically best way to play each decision absent further information about the composition of the remaining decks. It applies whether you are playing heads-up or at a table full of players.
The difference is that you must draw a card to your total of 9, whether you double or not. Standing is not an option. With A8 instead, you already have a completed solid hand of 19.
I’m playing in a on line live casino. It is an european style, 8 decks, 80% penetration, S17, double only in 9, 10 and 11. Split only once. Double after split is not allowed. You can hit after split Aces. I type this data in the MGP’s software and the advantage is -0,63. Is it beatable if I play with TC>1?
Each point of true count is worth about 0.5%. So at a TC +1, the game is still negative at about -0.13%. If you were to play only at TC +1 or better, the good counts would be enough to offset the small losses that occur when the true count is exactly +1. So the answer to your question is yes, you could create a small edge by even flat-betting this game by playing only when the true count is +1 or better. If you spread your bets in higher counts, obviously you can improve your results a lot.
Bonjour Ken, je joue dans les casinos britanniques et je n'ai pas de problème non plus avec le Wongin, mais je "respecte" davantage l'environnement maintenant et je jouerai avec une chaussure modérément négative. Cependant, le mois dernier, j'ai joué en Europe continentale et après 15 minutes, on m'a dit que je devais jouer ou partir. Plus tard dans la semaine, un joueur a synchronisé ses paris avec les miens et a également joué des déviations. Nous avons ensuite discuté et il n'est pas passé inaperçu qu'il avait attiré beaucoup d'attention. Il a été informé que son jeu n'était plus le bienvenu et nous pensons que c'est parce qu'il se déplaçait d'une table à l'autre.
Dans les casinos en ligne, on a l'avantage de pouvoir compter à rebours (jeux à 8 jeux).
the question is which is prefered, to back count and wait till the true count is high (say +3 or higher) and only then start betting, but then, you only play low number of hands per shoe. Or to play acroos the entire show, where you can play many more hands per shoe ?
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Spliting 8s against a ten? Isnt that a sucker play? I mean your going up against the highest card a dealer can have isnt that just asking for punishment?
This hand is ugly no matter what you do, but it is definitely better to split here.
If you hit the pair of 8s against a dealer ten, you’ll lose about $5.35 on a $10 bet on average.
If you stand, you’ll average a loss of $5.37.
If you split and put another $10 bet up, the average combined loss on the two (or more!) hands is $4.75.
Basic strategy is a game of pennies. You play every hand in the way that wins the most on average, or in this case, loses the least.
Split ’em.
Dans les casinos en ligne, on a l'avantage de pouvoir compter à rebours (jeux à 8 jeux).
La question est de savoir ce qui est préférable, de compter à rebours et d'attendre que le compte réel soit élevé (disons +3 ou plus) et de ne commencer à miser qu'ensuite, mais alors, vous ne jouez qu'un petit nombre de mains par chaussure. Ou jouer sur l'ensemble du sabot, ce qui permet de jouer beaucoup plus de mains par sabot ?
Désolé, je pensais avoir répondu à cette question plus tôt. J'ai dû oublier de cliquer sur Répondre.
Il n'y a aucun avantage à jouer plus de mains par sabot si ces mains ont une espérance négative.
Vos résultats seront toujours meilleurs si vous pouvez vous limiter à parier uniquement dans des situations positives.
Et pour être rentable, vous devez miser très peu ou pas du tout dans les comptes pairs ou négatifs.
Entrer dans ces jeux seulement à TC +3 ou plus vous donnera un bon pourcentage de profit, mais vous regarderez beaucoup plus de mains que vous n'en jouerez. Je commencerais probablement à +2, mais cela dépend de votre bankroll.
Bonjour Ken
Gr8 site and delivery. Thank you.
I have 3 questions regarding splits. The 8,8 v 10; 4,4 v 5 (6); and A, A vAce
I recently had a shoe that went to TC5+ and had max bets over 2 boxes. The first box produced a split and double. Which in turn produced another double. The second box produced a split and double also. The count had now come down to TC3+. The split was 8.8 and dealer was 10. Would u believe it, the split produced 2 more spits each being 8,8. I split one more time and decided I had too much money on the table and just stuck the final 8,8. My sessional roll just about contained all these splits and doubles but my nerves ran out as I decided it was too much. Should the correct play be to keep splitting 8,8s v 10 so long as sessional bank could contain it? This is UK rules.
First, 88vT in UK rules is not a split, because of the risk that a dealer blackjack could wipe out all your multiple bets.
But I’ll answer your real question assuming that the circumstance at hand is an appropriate split…
Mathematically yes, you should continue to split as long as that is the correct strategy. But it is not unreasonable to decide at some point that the risk is too high. If you are concerned about the session bankroll, it is not terribly expensive to decide to limit your exposure on a single hand. In my opinion, you should always be willing to put at least four bets at risk on a hand. If you’re not comfortable with that, your bankroll is not big enough. But beyond four bets, use your discretion.
On a flat shoe and European game, DAS, 4,4 v 5 (6) is a split. I hate this move and I split. From my probability charts a 4 v 6 less chance of winning than 8 v 6. So why is the BS move to split?
It’s often difficult to show a specific reason for the basic strategy of a particular hand. In this case, you’ll just win very slightly more by splitting (and making any possible resplits or double downs), than if you just hit the 44v6 hand. You really can’t just use probability of win charts unless you take into account all the downstream possibilities, and also the percentage chance of a push on any of the multiple hands. It’s complicated to figure manually, which is why combinatorial analysis software is used to determine the optimal strategy.
In the European and UK game, where dealer has no peek at his hole card, if the player has A,A v A and splits, then obtaining 2 x 21’s, the dealer gets a natural and wins all the splits. It is for this reason that a very experienced pro said A,A is not a split. However, another source says to split anyway since the split A’s are strong enough to warrant it.
The vast majority of books on BJ are not written with enough consideration for European/UK rules.
What do you suggest please?
Against the UK no-hole-card game, do not put more money on the tables against a dealer ten or Ace, with one exception. Still split Aces against a dealer ten. My Moteur de stratégie with the “No Peek” setting will show you the correct strategy.
i dont understand, is the BS always used or just when playing alone against the house, and if so, why???
when im studying BS i see suicidal hands
Basic strategy is, by definition, the mathematically best way to play each decision absent further information about the composition of the remaining decks. It applies whether you are playing heads-up or at a table full of players.
Hi, Ken,
My question is: Whay you double down at 9 against a 4 or 5 and you don’t at A,8, since I have the same a total of 9 ?
The difference is that you must draw a card to your total of 9, whether you double or not. Standing is not an option. With A8 instead, you already have a completed solid hand of 19.
Hi, Ken
I’m playing in a on line live casino. It is an european style, 8 decks, 80% penetration, S17, double only in 9, 10 and 11. Split only once. Double after split is not allowed. You can hit after split Aces. I type this data in the MGP’s software and the advantage is -0,63. Is it beatable if I play with TC>1?
Each point of true count is worth about 0.5%. So at a TC +1, the game is still negative at about -0.13%. If you were to play only at TC +1 or better, the good counts would be enough to offset the small losses that occur when the true count is exactly +1. So the answer to your question is yes, you could create a small edge by even flat-betting this game by playing only when the true count is +1 or better. If you spread your bets in higher counts, obviously you can improve your results a lot.
Bonjour Ken, je joue dans les casinos britanniques et je n'ai pas de problème non plus avec le Wongin, mais je "respecte" davantage l'environnement maintenant et je jouerai avec une chaussure modérément négative. Cependant, le mois dernier, j'ai joué en Europe continentale et après 15 minutes, on m'a dit que je devais jouer ou partir. Plus tard dans la semaine, un joueur a synchronisé ses paris avec les miens et a également joué des déviations. Nous avons ensuite discuté et il n'est pas passé inaperçu qu'il avait attiré beaucoup d'attention. Il a été informé que son jeu n'était plus le bienvenu et nous pensons que c'est parce qu'il se déplaçait d'une table à l'autre.
Aces are auto split. And it really matter’s where u sit when another players decides to bank. Good luck