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But isn’t it worth it if you’re counting cards? If it means playing in a one deck game doesn’t that mean that you will recoup the difference and then some? It depends on the cut card’s location and the number of others at the table, and the min bet and max bet of course, but I was just at a casino that had a min bet of 10 and max of 200 on a game like that. I didn’t play that because I wasn’t prepared for it and I thought even if I pulled it off, it was a quick way to get das booten out of the place, to either bet 10 or 200 every hand, the 2 deck game looked more appealing.
I’ve noticed the same thing as Benjamin. The cards are coming “pre packed”. Can’t help but wonder if there is a certain mathematically proven way to stack the deck. When you arrive to the tables in Vegas the cards are splayed out in a “display” kind of way.
Pay attention now: YOU NEVER SEE THEM GET SHUFFLED IN FRONT OF YOU ON A NEW DECK.
I walked up to an empty table at MANDALAY BAY , cashed 2 grand in chips , asked the dealer or to shuffle the cards in front of me. The nasty little Vietnamese bitch refused got major rude attitude and yelled the cards were shuffled already why you want shuffle again i no unda stand nobody ask that why you saying shuffle …. On and on and on … I called over pit boss and told him my play isn’t starting until I see the cards are shuffled.
Pit boss sided with dealer and said she already shuffled them she doesn’t have to show you she shuffled.
I said NO and left they demanded i color out my chips (change green 25s to black 100s) I said i don’t HAVE to color up and stormed out.
I only play large sports betting or tiny roulette amounts now – or video black jack. I will not play reg blackjack on strip unless it’s only for a small stop loss or there is a hot single girl sitting alone. I strongly suspect the casinos are pre shuffling the decks or doing something nefarious – because the difference in losses between the strip and downtown is night and day.
It’s COMMON for me lose 4, 5 , 10 hands in a row at MGM and Ceasers properties – COMMON … I will literally sit down and lose money AND i always look for tables with nobody there so there always a new deck and i always lose ….. It’s not probable and other people are saying the same thing. I’m not a card counter i just really hate playing with other people (strangers) since I’m not there for the fake social hour hello goodbye I’ll never see you again in my life kind if thing – I’m there to win money. Again:
1) Strip Properties Only
2) MGM and Caesars Only
3) Brand new deck only
I didn’t realize they were not shuffling in front of me until I noticed the cards were all splayed out on the tables for display.
rarely has this happened downtown. Whenever i play Cortez it’s always ups and downs and cortez ALWAYS shuffles in front of you by hand with the original blackjack rules.
I 100% agree with Benjamin something is not right with Black Jack on the strip
And another thing .. Fuck these dealers. Most of them are “nice” enough but cannot even speak correct English !! Vegas is importing cheap labor to cut out the job market and profit on the backs for poor 3rd world and developing H1B1s who are in a new country far from home and Scared to speak up.
That’s how these people like Sheldon Alsdale and Wynn – want the world to be. Remember the song from the famous goth band Nine Inch Nails:
“god money I’ll do anything for you … god money just tell me what you want me too ….. god money dances on the backs of the bruised … god moneys not one to choose”
NONE of the old timers can tell me hey have not noticed these huge and obvious changes over the past 50 years which has ruined the entire Vegas experience. everything from the class of employees, imported dealers , rude pit bosses , asshole security staff , sky high prices and the worst – a non stop roller coaster of nickel and diming .
.. I will take Vegas 50 years ago over Vegas today any day.
Your senario has an equal amount of bust cards and “make” cards. But that isn’t always the case. if the dealer has a 16 there are more bust cards than there are make cards in a neutral shoe.
Because of this, third base has a higher likelihood of taking a card that would have busted the dealer. And, once that happens the dealer’s odds of getting a bust card go down.
And in the event that the player draws one of the few small cards, the dealer’s chance of busting goes up, right? The effect of the two outcomes completely offset each other, and the net result is zero change in the percentage chance that the dealer busts.
You ask if you are missing something here. Yes, keep thinking. Third base’s actions do not matter. Period.
Quote: “So, here’s the betting schedule I worked out for a $3000 bankroll. Bear in mind that as the bankroll increases (or decreases), the schedule must be changed in order to keep the risk of ‘gambler’s ruin’ about the same. I will modify the schedule at $1000 increments; that is, if I win $1000, I’ll refigure the betting schedule by remultiplying all the percentages by $4000. On the other hand, if I choose to spend my profits, I’ll just continue to operate with the original schedule. In the unlikely event that I hit a big losing streak (how’s that for positive thinking?) I really couldn’t downsize the bets very much. As long as the bank remains above $2000, I’ll stick with this schedule. If it should go below $2000, I’d quit until I could build the bank up again.”
The realities of this confuse me. Bankrolling 3000 but only exposing 1000 in reality, does strange things to my mind when calculating willful bets, unless this is blatantly stated to be “And then I will go elsewhere and re-win myself to 3000 using my remaining bankroll”
Am I correct in assuming this is the modus operandi?
El Cortez still does single-deck 3:2 DA split 4x, no DAS and no resplit aces (ouch, but only hurt me one time). Just play a good cover game and banter. People talk about being run down there like dogs and refer to it as The Sweaty Spaniard, but I went out 200 up and 300 up on consecutive days with ABSOLUTELY WILD spreads (I mean, red chipping until making 75 or 150 drops) and because every now and then I split 10s like a lunatic, I never got anything more than a “Good luck! :D” from the dealer or pitbulls. I even brought a Basic Strategy sheet on full 8.5×11 which not only helps me with my play (counting for me is far easier than memorizing BStrat) but also helps my cover. Swallow the pride, show some emotion and there’s money to be made, by my reckoning.
I am genuinely new to all of this however, so my words may be taken with not a grain of, but an entire salt mine.
No, the option isn’t which card do you want him to take. The option is for him not to take a card at all. Because in a neutral deck there are more cards that would bust a 16 then cards that would make a 16. So, it is more likely that the next card, regardless of where you grab it from the deck, is a bust card. If the player takes that card then the odds of the dealer getting a bust card go down.
Do not understand your question. You stated that you had over 21 and then you said “I had 15 and hit and got an ace”. So what is it you had over 21 or 16?
Counting cards feels worthless with 6-5 Blackjack taking over the entire strip and downtown. Even El Cortez 6-5 blackjack tables are expanding.
People are so so so so stupid they literally see “6-5” and think it’s more than “3-2” because their “feelings” told them it was bigger.
It is proof how stupid people are today. I don’t care if you give everyone a fake grading curve group grades college degree. This is undeniable prof most people are dumb as a post when it comes to basic math and by the way MOST college degrees require some kind of College level Algebra , Calculus as a prerequisite for graduation.
El Cortez in Las Vegas is similar, good rules on single deck, though dealer hits S17. 3:2 BJ, double anything, split any pair. Haven’t checked surrender though.
Royal Match pays 3:1 on same suite hole, and KQ on suite pays 10x! I’ve found it easier to count suites than cards.
Statistics is a difficult college class. Most people can’t even pass simple math.
But isn’t it worth it if you’re counting cards? If it means playing in a one deck game doesn’t that mean that you will recoup the difference and then some? It depends on the cut card’s location and the number of others at the table, and the min bet and max bet of course, but I was just at a casino that had a min bet of 10 and max of 200 on a game like that. I didn’t play that because I wasn’t prepared for it and I thought even if I pulled it off, it was a quick way to get das booten out of the place, to either bet 10 or 200 every hand, the 2 deck game looked more appealing.
When playing basic strategy at blackjack, should I always place the same bet, or is it wise to play bigger bets as well?
So where is this wonderful efficiency calculator? I don’t see it anywhere.
You’re probably on a device that doesn’t support Flash. Try from your desktop browser.
There is no provision for a side count of aces?
Ok, I used it but there is no provision for an Ace side count.
I’ve noticed the same thing as Benjamin. The cards are coming “pre packed”. Can’t help but wonder if there is a certain mathematically proven way to stack the deck. When you arrive to the tables in Vegas the cards are splayed out in a “display” kind of way.
Pay attention now: YOU NEVER SEE THEM GET SHUFFLED IN FRONT OF YOU ON A NEW DECK.
I walked up to an empty table at MANDALAY BAY , cashed 2 grand in chips , asked the dealer or to shuffle the cards in front of me. The nasty little Vietnamese bitch refused got major rude attitude and yelled the cards were shuffled already why you want shuffle again i no unda stand nobody ask that why you saying shuffle …. On and on and on … I called over pit boss and told him my play isn’t starting until I see the cards are shuffled.
Pit boss sided with dealer and said she already shuffled them she doesn’t have to show you she shuffled.
I said NO and left they demanded i color out my chips (change green 25s to black 100s) I said i don’t HAVE to color up and stormed out.
I only play large sports betting or tiny roulette amounts now – or video black jack. I will not play reg blackjack on strip unless it’s only for a small stop loss or there is a hot single girl sitting alone. I strongly suspect the casinos are pre shuffling the decks or doing something nefarious – because the difference in losses between the strip and downtown is night and day.
It’s COMMON for me lose 4, 5 , 10 hands in a row at MGM and Ceasers properties – COMMON … I will literally sit down and lose money AND i always look for tables with nobody there so there always a new deck and i always lose ….. It’s not probable and other people are saying the same thing. I’m not a card counter i just really hate playing with other people (strangers) since I’m not there for the fake social hour hello goodbye I’ll never see you again in my life kind if thing – I’m there to win money. Again:
1) Strip Properties Only
2) MGM and Caesars Only
3) Brand new deck only
I didn’t realize they were not shuffling in front of me until I noticed the cards were all splayed out on the tables for display.
rarely has this happened downtown. Whenever i play Cortez it’s always ups and downs and cortez ALWAYS shuffles in front of you by hand with the original blackjack rules.
I 100% agree with Benjamin something is not right with Black Jack on the strip
And another thing .. Fuck these dealers. Most of them are “nice” enough but cannot even speak correct English !! Vegas is importing cheap labor to cut out the job market and profit on the backs for poor 3rd world and developing H1B1s who are in a new country far from home and Scared to speak up.
That’s how these people like Sheldon Alsdale and Wynn – want the world to be. Remember the song from the famous goth band Nine Inch Nails:
“god money I’ll do anything for you … god money just tell me what you want me too ….. god money dances on the backs of the bruised … god moneys not one to choose”
NONE of the old timers can tell me hey have not noticed these huge and obvious changes over the past 50 years which has ruined the entire Vegas experience. everything from the class of employees, imported dealers , rude pit bosses , asshole security staff , sky high prices and the worst – a non stop roller coaster of nickel and diming .
.. I will take Vegas 50 years ago over Vegas today any day.
Tell me i am making this up .
Ken,
Your senario has an equal amount of bust cards and “make” cards. But that isn’t always the case. if the dealer has a 16 there are more bust cards than there are make cards in a neutral shoe.
Because of this, third base has a higher likelihood of taking a card that would have busted the dealer. And, once that happens the dealer’s odds of getting a bust card go down.
Happy to hear if I am missing something here.
And in the event that the player draws one of the few small cards, the dealer’s chance of busting goes up, right? The effect of the two outcomes completely offset each other, and the net result is zero change in the percentage chance that the dealer busts.
You ask if you are missing something here. Yes, keep thinking. Third base’s actions do not matter. Period.
Quote: “So, here’s the betting schedule I worked out for a $3000 bankroll. Bear in mind that as the bankroll increases (or decreases), the schedule must be changed in order to keep the risk of ‘gambler’s ruin’ about the same. I will modify the schedule at $1000 increments; that is, if I win $1000, I’ll refigure the betting schedule by remultiplying all the percentages by $4000. On the other hand, if I choose to spend my profits, I’ll just continue to operate with the original schedule. In the unlikely event that I hit a big losing streak (how’s that for positive thinking?) I really couldn’t downsize the bets very much. As long as the bank remains above $2000, I’ll stick with this schedule. If it should go below $2000, I’d quit until I could build the bank up again.”
The realities of this confuse me. Bankrolling 3000 but only exposing 1000 in reality, does strange things to my mind when calculating willful bets, unless this is blatantly stated to be “And then I will go elsewhere and re-win myself to 3000 using my remaining bankroll”
Am I correct in assuming this is the modus operandi?
El Cortez still does single-deck 3:2 DA split 4x, no DAS and no resplit aces (ouch, but only hurt me one time). Just play a good cover game and banter. People talk about being run down there like dogs and refer to it as The Sweaty Spaniard, but I went out 200 up and 300 up on consecutive days with ABSOLUTELY WILD spreads (I mean, red chipping until making 75 or 150 drops) and because every now and then I split 10s like a lunatic, I never got anything more than a “Good luck! :D” from the dealer or pitbulls. I even brought a Basic Strategy sheet on full 8.5×11 which not only helps me with my play (counting for me is far easier than memorizing BStrat) but also helps my cover. Swallow the pride, show some emotion and there’s money to be made, by my reckoning.
I am genuinely new to all of this however, so my words may be taken with not a grain of, but an entire salt mine.
I guess math wasn’t your best subject in school.
I am a dealer on a strip casino and of you have a blackjack or …soft 11….and the dealer has a 5 or 6 showing you ALWAYS DOUBLE DOWN
No, the option isn’t which card do you want him to take. The option is for him not to take a card at all. Because in a neutral deck there are more cards that would bust a 16 then cards that would make a 16. So, it is more likely that the next card, regardless of where you grab it from the deck, is a bust card. If the player takes that card then the odds of the dealer getting a bust card go down.
Do not understand your question. You stated that you had over 21 and then you said “I had 15 and hit and got an ace”. So what is it you had over 21 or 16?
Counting cards feels worthless with 6-5 Blackjack taking over the entire strip and downtown. Even El Cortez 6-5 blackjack tables are expanding.
People are so so so so stupid they literally see “6-5” and think it’s more than “3-2” because their “feelings” told them it was bigger.
It is proof how stupid people are today. I don’t care if you give everyone a fake grading curve group grades college degree. This is undeniable prof most people are dumb as a post when it comes to basic math and by the way MOST college degrees require some kind of College level Algebra , Calculus as a prerequisite for graduation.
Dude most online black jack.is rigged to.be honest.
El Cortez in Las Vegas is similar, good rules on single deck, though dealer hits S17. 3:2 BJ, double anything, split any pair. Haven’t checked surrender though.
Royal Match pays 3:1 on same suite hole, and KQ on suite pays 10x! I’ve found it easier to count suites than cards.
500$ is good enough