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46hands I made a profit of 800. I started at 50. highest bet I got to was 150. I won 23 lost 21. so 50% winning which is above the expectation. I did lost most of my bigger bets but I got some double downs and I as well won my smaller ones to build up to the back and forth with the same until I got a few momentum
trial 3 $462.5 profit biggest bet was 125. won 21 lost 20 played 48hands. lost most of my double downs. had 43% accuracy. I never went back to base and was down over 2-300 at a time
trial 4 -$762.5. which is totally reasonable. my highest bet was 150. I lost most of my bigger bets. I lost the most double downs I had lost so far. I as well only had a win %37. which would mean no matter what I would have lost money on any sort of betting.
I don’t understand why people go through such clumsy and hectic mathematics and software when it comes to gambling. For me gambling is just a fun where you want to win but not earn knowing the expected loss you are willing to bear. It is sophisticated math when we talk about probability. When something is uncertain just enjoy the uncertainty. DOn’t bother with it anymore.
The better way to explain it is this. Johnny Clueless says to hit. Instead of the dealer giving him the next card from the deck, the dealer offers you the option to select any remaining card in the deck to give to Johnny instead. Should you take that option? The next card and the one you actually choose have been in that same position in the shoe since the shuffle. If you think that those two cards in those two positions now have a different chance of being a 10, then that was also true for those two cards right after the shuffle. Every card in the deck has the same chance of being a 10 after the shuffle. Do you not trust the shuffle?
i was playing black jack at the casino in sudbury. when splitting two face cards the machine aloud me to play each card seperatly like two seperate hands but when splitting two aces the machine gave me one card on each ace and then played its hand not allowing me to play the aces at all . is this a common practice.
I’m using the Red 7 counting system and have been practicing counting for about a week. I keep losing count about midway through the deck. Does anyone else have this problem? Any help will be appreciated.
Everything published about the Red 7 count got one thing wrong. On a single deck the IRC is -2 and they say when your finished counting down a deck of cards you should end with a +2. Wrong!!!!!! The running count should be 0 at the end of the deck not +2. Even Arnold Snyder got it wrong and he’s the author of the book. Everyone else in these Blackjack forums that publishing stories on the RED 7 system also got it wrong. It seems they blindly write these articles without checking. No wonder I was having a hard time counting down a deck of cards.
WHAT?? i cant even follow what you are trying to say here.
but if you’d pay attention to what the article said, you would have heard it does affect the game how they play. it affects it both positively and negatively an equal amount on average.
I agree, I’ve found playing short rounds, betting to make up for losses and stopping after the winning streak of that session leaves me ahead every time and usual with a small decent haul of sometimes 200 to 300 dollars over the course of an hour. If i had 10’s of thousands of dollars to blow could see that small haul exponentially being impressive, but in reality with a small gambling egg and playing perfectly with all the tiny bonuses in your favor your winnings are equivalent to an hourly mediocre job through the course of a day. The biggest rule I feel that doesn’t work and I ignore but statistically has the law of probability in its favor is holding on 12 to 16 hoping the dealer breaks. Mathematically its theory is probably good on paper but in reality the dealer mostly always comes out ahead.
so it takes overall about 20,000 hands to have any sort of data that is relatively average of what your mathematical expectation should be if you were to card count with an advantage. so I played 1 shoe and lost -1100. I flat betted 100%. I won 14 hands and lost 33. my winning % was 28 which is below average expectation. I as well lost my double downs so that is why I was down so much money just on a short sample
this data is actually not garbage and important data and I will tell you why. blackjack is a negative expectation game. you are going to lose money in the long run. the only edge one can have is counting cards. even then edge is maybe 1-2% overall and the play differs from basic strategy. so therefore one will make no money flat betting period unless they just happen to win more hands then they lose and they as well win double downs. it could go just as much the other direction and basically will be
46hands I made a profit of 800. I started at 50. highest bet I got to was 150. I won 23 lost 21. so 50% winning which is above the expectation. I did lost most of my bigger bets but I got some double downs and I as well won my smaller ones to build up to the back and forth with the same until I got a few momentum
trial 2 made 350 and biggest bet was 150. lost most of my bigger bets but had a 44% accuracy which is around expectation
trial 3 $462.5 profit biggest bet was 125. won 21 lost 20 played 48hands. lost most of my double downs. had 43% accuracy. I never went back to base and was down over 2-300 at a time
trial 4 -$762.5. which is totally reasonable. my highest bet was 150. I lost most of my bigger bets. I lost the most double downs I had lost so far. I as well only had a win %37. which would mean no matter what I would have lost money on any sort of betting.
I won 56% of my hands 27 won and 18 lost. profit was +$1237.5. only won 1 double down out of 4. pushed on 1
Am I ready to take on the casino? The casino i’m going to be targeting cuts of 2 decks out of their 6 deck shoe instead of just 1.
I don’t understand why people go through such clumsy and hectic mathematics and software when it comes to gambling. For me gambling is just a fun where you want to win but not earn knowing the expected loss you are willing to bear. It is sophisticated math when we talk about probability. When something is uncertain just enjoy the uncertainty. DOn’t bother with it anymore.
If dealer has black jack and says they don’t and game continues and you get 21 as well what is the recourse.
The better way to explain it is this. Johnny Clueless says to hit. Instead of the dealer giving him the next card from the deck, the dealer offers you the option to select any remaining card in the deck to give to Johnny instead. Should you take that option? The next card and the one you actually choose have been in that same position in the shoe since the shuffle. If you think that those two cards in those two positions now have a different chance of being a 10, then that was also true for those two cards right after the shuffle. Every card in the deck has the same chance of being a 10 after the shuffle. Do you not trust the shuffle?
i was playing black jack at the casino in sudbury. when splitting two face cards the machine aloud me to play each card seperatly like two seperate hands but when splitting two aces the machine gave me one card on each ace and then played its hand not allowing me to play the aces at all . is this a common practice.
On the 8,8 hands if I can surrender am I saving or loosing money vs the 10 and the A.??
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On the 8,8 hands if I can surrender am I saving or loosing money vs the 10 and the A.??
BB
I’m using the Red 7 counting system and have been practicing counting for about a week. I keep losing count about midway through the deck. Does anyone else have this problem? Any help will be appreciated.
Everything published about the Red 7 count got one thing wrong. On a single deck the IRC is -2 and
they say when your finished counting down a deck of cards you should end with a +2. Wrong!!!!!!
The running count should be 0 at the end of the deck not +2. Even Arnold Snyder got it wrong and
he’s the author of the book. Everyone else in these Blackjack forums that publishing stories on the RED 7 system also got it wrong. It seems they blindly write these articles without checking. No wonder I was having a hard time
counting down a deck of cards.
Ive always wondered and it is the way to go.
Nope, There is no system to win in Blackjack, except counting cards. (And even that can not guarantee a win.)
WHAT?? i cant even follow what you are trying to say here.
but if you’d pay attention to what the article said, you would have heard it does affect the game how they play. it affects it both positively and negatively an equal amount on average.
I agree, I’ve found playing short rounds, betting to make up for losses and stopping after the winning streak of that session leaves me ahead every time and usual with a small decent haul of sometimes 200 to 300 dollars over the course of an hour. If i had 10’s of thousands of dollars to blow could see that small haul exponentially being impressive, but in reality with a small gambling egg and playing perfectly with all the tiny bonuses in your favor your winnings are equivalent to an hourly mediocre job through the course of a day. The biggest rule I feel that doesn’t work and I ignore but statistically has the law of probability in its favor is holding on 12 to 16 hoping the dealer breaks. Mathematically its theory is probably good on paper but in reality the dealer mostly always comes out ahead.
so it takes overall about 20,000 hands to have any sort of data that is relatively average of what your mathematical expectation should be if you were to card count with an advantage. so I played 1 shoe and lost -1100. I flat betted 100%. I won 14 hands and lost 33. my winning % was 28 which is below average expectation. I as well lost my double downs so that is why I was down so much money just on a short sample
this data is actually not garbage and important data and I will tell you why. blackjack is a negative expectation game. you are going to lose money in the long run. the only edge one can have is counting cards. even then edge is maybe 1-2% overall and the play differs from basic strategy. so therefore one will make no money flat betting period unless they just happen to win more hands then they lose and they as well win double downs. it could go just as much the other direction and basically will be