letter to the members

kewljason

Well-Known Member
Once again, my frustration flowed over this past weekend, and for that I apoligize. I mostly blame myself for defending these personal attacks and continuing to engage in discussions concerning such nonsence. It shows a definate lack of discipline on my part, for which I hope to do better by limiting my participation to blackjack related topics and away from personal discussions. :eek:

It seems a couple member's don't care for me and continually hint at or state outright that I am a fraud. This confuses me a bit and I suspect deep down they know this isn't true. I mean what have I claimed on this site? That I am some AP superstar who has taken the casino's for millions? Hardly. :laugh: In 2007, my first year of posting, I made roughly 20 grand or about what a fast food worker makes. :eek: Last year, I had a little more success mostly because I was finally able to grow my bankroll to a level which supported larger wagers. My income was still pretty modest, in the mid 5 figure range, far less than most full time AP's would find acceptable and as Kim Lee stated after we communicated, I spend far greater time acheiving these results than most AP's would find reasonable. So if telling tall tales was my thing, I think I could do a bit better than this. :laugh:

What other members think of me or choose to believe doesn't affect my bottom line one bit. It just taints my name when I participate on this site. :(

I am grateful to Ken, Sonny, Icount&track and other moderator(s) that I may not know by name for providing this site, from which I have learned and continue to learn volumes. My AP skills and efforts are very elementary still, consisting mostly of just counting, but I am sure my efforts and results have benefited from the knowledge I have received from this site and it's members.

Concerning the recent 'BJ Bash thread'. As stated, I think the Bash is a tremendous opportunity for those that choose to attend. Make some blackjack aquantances, learn some new skills, have some fun and maybe visit a location that you otherwise wouldn't. I personally have a handful of attendees that I would like to someday meet. There are a variety of reasons why a players might choose not to attend though and I don't think that indicates anything other than that player has some concerns that for him or her outweigh the benefits at this time.

It saddens me to see someone have an agenda to divide the membership into those who attend and are the real deal and outsiders. I am glad to see that no other attendees shared that view, at least publicly. :)

I don't understand all the politics, agendas and attacks on this site. Other than maybe not sharing some sensative information about a juicy game or opportunity, (greed :laugh:) I like to think we are all on the same team. Let's all stop the backstabbing and personal attacks (myself included) and unite against the common enemy. :)
 
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blackjack avenger

Well-Known Member
Yes, Unite Against the Common Enemy!!!!!

Who is it?
Panther
Monkey
Shad
Ken
Count N Track
ZG

Let's all unite and get them!
Panther
Monkey
Shad
ken
Count N Track
ZG
are you with me!

Oh wait:joker::whip:
 

shadroch

Well-Known Member
Don't let the bastards get you down.
There is a reason why most boards have an ignore this poster switch.
Find it and use it.

Hopefully, CP will learn from his vacation and come back a wiser man and a better forumite. We can only hope.
 

21forme

Well-Known Member
KJ - you have no need to justify nor explain your life choices, play style, etc. to any self-appointed forum cops.

BTW, I agree with your decision not to attend any get-togethers. Since this is your livelihood, there's a lot of risk and little reward. I recall one of Snyder's stories about a get-together on the west coast, after which several players were immediately barred from their usual haunts due to the presence of a casino employee.

P.S. It's grammar :grin:
 

kewljason

Well-Known Member
21forme said:
P.S. It's grammar :grin:
Shades of Don S. :laugh: just kidding.

Grammar corrected.

Thanx for your other thoughts as well, 21. I appreciate it. Shadroch too.
 
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Sucker

Well-Known Member
kewljason said:
What other members think of me or choose to believe doesn't affect my bottom line one bit.
This is the only thing that really matters. As far as your reputation on this site, let your posts speak for themselves. Most of the regulars here possess higher than average intelligence and are smart enough to judge you by YOUR words and not the words of someone who sometimes takes on the role of a troll. Believe me when I tell you that we ALL know who the trolls are.

This same person has also accused ME of being some sort of a "fraud" or an "outsider". I take that as a great compliment.
 

bjcount

Well-Known Member
Kewl J

You need some thicker skin dude. I was never one of the members of those good ole' boys club, and for sure the risk of exposure is not worth the party unless your drinking and keeping the chips in your pocket.

The few older members I've spoke with in the past all felt the same way I do, it's a great way to meet the other members and learn some new tricks, but meeting at the store is a danger to YOUR livelyhood, so why take the risk.

You've probably learned to leave the table if you pick up on another counter at the table, so why intentionally sit down with 4 others?

Just my 2 cents.

BJC
 

riggler

Active Member
Completely off topic, so sorry for the hijack, but why do you leave a table if you pick up there's another counter at the table?
 

kewljason

Well-Known Member
riggler said:
Completely off topic, so sorry for the hijack, but why do you leave a table if you pick up there's another counter at the table?
No need to apoligize, riggler. I welcome that chance to get back to blackjack discussion. :) Two counters at the table are pretty much going to raise there bets in tandem, even if they are using different counts. Two players raising bets at the same time are even more obvious than one.
 

aslan

Well-Known Member
kewljason said:
Shades of Don S. :laugh: just kidding.

Grammar corrected.

Thanx for your other thoughts as well, 21. I appreciate it. Shadrock too.
Elementary, my dear Jason, elementary. And that goes for Shadroch, too. Thanx. :grin::whip: :whip:
 

zengrifter

Banned
kewljason said:
No need to apoligize, riggler. I welcome that chance to get back to blackjack discussion. :) Two counters at the table are pretty much going to raise there bets in tandem, even if they are using different counts. Two players raising bets at the same time are even more obvious than one.
On the other hand, if they work together and take turns raising their bets it could be good cover. zg
 

kewljason

Well-Known Member
zengrifter said:
Oh, ya, cover comes with a price.
But if the two counters merge banks, they can bet twice as big. z:cool:g
Ok, so these two counters who don't know each other, but happen onto each other are going agree to work together, share their bankrolls and alternate large wagers right there at the table? How is that going to work, Zen? Is there a series of hand signals necessary to come to the kind of arrangement? Do they sign an agreement right there at the table? Perhaps one of the pit bosses could be the witness for legal purposes. :laugh: So you would find this reward to be greater than the risk?
 

psyduck

Well-Known Member
kewljason said:
Once again, my frustration flowed over this past weekend, and for that I apoligize. I mostly blame myself for defending these personal attacks and continuing to engage in discussions concerning such nonsence. It shows a definate lack of discipline on my part, for which I hope to do better by limiting my participation to blackjack related topics and away from personal discussions. :eek:

It seems a couple member's don't care for me and continually hint at or state outright that I am a fraud. This confuses me a bit and I suspect deep down they know this isn't true. I mean what have I claimed on this site? That I am some AP superstar who has taken the casino's for millions? Hardly. :laugh: In 2007, my first year of posting, I made roughly 20 grand or about what a fast food worker makes. :eek: Last year, I had a little more success mostly because I was finally able to grow my bankroll to a level which supported larger wagers. My income was still pretty modest, in the mid 5 figure range, far less than most full time AP's would find acceptable and as Kim Lee stated after we communicated, I spend far greater time acheiving these results than most AP's would find reasonable. So if telling tall tales was my thing, I think I could do a bit better than this. :laugh:

What other members think of me or choose to believe doesn't affect my bottom line one bit. It just taints my name when I participate on this site. :(

I am grateful to Ken, Sonny, Icount&track and other moderator(s) that I may not know by name for providing this site, from which I have learned and continue to learn volumes. My AP skills and efforts are very elemenary still, consisting mostly of just counting, but I am sure my efforts and results have benefited from the knowledge I have received from this site and it's members.

Concerning the recent 'BJ Bash thread'. As stated, I think the Bash is a tremendous opportunity for those that choose to attend. Make some blackjack aquantances, learn some new skills, have some fun and maybe visit a location that you otherwise wouldn't. I personally have a handful of attendees that I would like to someday meet. There are a variety of reasons why a players might choose not to attend though and I don't think that indicates anything other than that player has some concerns that for him or her outweigh the benefits at this time.

It saddens me to see someone have an agenda to divide the membership into those who attend and are the real deal and outsiders. I am glad to see that no other attendees shared that view, at least publicly. :)

I don't understand all the politics, agendas and attacks on this site. Other than maybe not sharing some sensative information about a juicy game or opportunity, (greed :laugh:) I like to think we are all on the same team. Let's all stop the backstabbing and personal attacks (myself included) and unite against the common enemy. :)
KJ,

Do not forget that there are more members here who respect your achievement and value your posts. At this point, you should know that your reputation is reflected by your posts.

No matter what others say about you, do what you believe is right for yourself.

Keep it up!
 

aslan

Well-Known Member
zengrifter said:
Oh, ya, cover comes with a price.
But if the two counters merge banks, they can bet twice as big. z:cool:g
Now two perfect strangers are merging bankrolls! Oy vey! :rolleyes:
 

WRX

Well-Known Member
Everybody just chill

I hope anyone playing this game's having fun with it, or it's not worth it. Anyone with the smarts and the dedication to be successful at blackjack could probably make a lot more money doing something else. So if you're still playing, it had better be because you love the game, or because you love the life, or because money won is sweeter than money from a paycheck. So let's lighten up!
 
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