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Canceler

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Question...

Are the posted results for each set of 30 shoes, or is it the cumulative results we're seeing? In other words, is sagefr0g down by $1488 :)eek: ), or by $3031 :)eek: :eek: :eek: )?
 

sagefr0g

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Canceler said:
Are the posted results for each set of 30 shoes, or is it the cumulative results we're seeing? In other words, is sagefr0g down by $1488 :)eek: ), or by $3031 :)eek: :eek: :eek: )?
it's a where we're at bankroll-wise at that point. so i'm down $1488 after ninety shoes. :(
 

jack.jackson

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Canceler said:
Thanks! That's not quite so bad then.
Participate In our next contest. Hopefully I will have cvbj to verify my official results. Not sure if I will be able to afford it though.
 

Kasi

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jack said:
Participate In our next contest. Hopefully I will have cvbj to verify my official results. Not sure if I will be able to afford it though.
It just came to me - next time let anybody play anytime they want. Anybody can be on the "team" for as long or as short as they want. We'll post 1 sim for some generic game with a spread. Something simple. Maybe double-deck so anybody with a couple decks of cards could give it a shot for the fun of it if they wanted. Low ROR maybe. Use any counting system you want. Then anybody that has results, just post best-guess number of hands and result, any other comments, anytime you feel you played for a while trying as best you can to implement the betting strategy like a good little robot lol. CVBJ or not - honor system is fine. No polygraph tests on this team lol.

Might be interesting to see the ups and downs and maybe get to the long run fairly quickly this way. Periodically figure out how lucky we all are or not.

Or not, lol.

So how unlucky are you O Wise One? :)

Either of you have some estimate of hands played per shoe?

Need something to at least make a guess on how things are going lol.
 

sagefr0g

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Kasi said:
......
So how unlucky are you O Wise One? :)

Either of you have some estimate of hands played per shoe?

Need something to at least make a guess on how things are going lol.
i can tell you how things are going. they are going down the sh!t tube lol.
but i'm averaging 22 hands per shoe over this part where i'm behaving myself playing one hand and all according to the 'Norm' shuffle and losing my a$$ .
playe 1036 hands so far on the straight and narrow lol.
i think Norm's RNG is stuck or something...... i'm getting as many negative counts as Wvbj was getting in West Virginia lol.
 

Kasi

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sagefr0g said:
i can tell you how things are going. they are going down the sh!t tube lol.
but i'm averaging 22 hands per shoe over this part where i'm behaving myself playing one hand and all according to the 'Norm' shuffle and losing my a$$ .
playe 1036 hands so far on the straight and narrow lol.
i think Norm's RNG is stuck or something...... i'm getting as many negative counts as Wvbj was getting in West Virginia lol.
You and that Black Cloud :)

I guess at least you're betting min alot then lol.

So what's your straight and narrow loss?

Heck if you guys were 2 guys on a team, I'm pretty sure results are perfectly normal.

It's just that JJ is more normal than you. But who wants to be normal anyway? ;)
 

sagefr0g

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Kasi said:
You and that Black Cloud :)

I guess at least you're betting min alot then lol.

So what's your straight and narrow loss?

Heck if you guys were 2 guys on a team, I'm pretty sure results are perfectly normal.

It's just that JJ is more normal than you. But who wants to be normal anyway? ;)
yeah, maybe some day the sunshine come back. :(
lost $1,055 playing the straight and narrow for 1,036 hands.
average bet $23 .
circa 733 hands tc <=0
127 hands tc =1
69 hands tc =2
109 hands tc> =3
 

Kasi

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sagefr0g said:
yeah, maybe some day the sunshine come back. :(
lost $1,055 playing the straight and narrow for 1,036 hands.
average bet $23 .
But now at least you know how painful 1 measley stan dev can be :)

Start complaining around 2.5 or so :)

Seriously, I think it's great you're sticking with it. And JJ too.
 

sagefr0g

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Kasi said:
But now at least you know how painful 1 measley stan dev can be :)

Start complaining around 2.5 or so :)

Seriously, I think it's great you're sticking with it. And JJ too.
plugged some numbers in the WISEFROG spreadsheet for the 1036 hands. comming in right on the money with the spreadsheet. very cool. :1st:
right on my devastating loss & average bet....
lost $1,055
average bet circa $23
see snippets below:
 

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Canceler

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Thanks for the invitation, but…

jack said:
Participate In our next contest.
I don’t have CVBJ, and I’d never get it done using real cards. I’d be willing to try it if conditions were such that I could use the BS Trainer. Nobody probably wants to go along with that though, because it’s so restrictive, in that you can’t play two hands, or set the pen, or have extra players. :(
 

sagefr0g

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Canceler said:
I don’t have CVBJ, and I’d never get it done using real cards. I’d be willing to try it if conditions were such that I could use the BS Trainer. Nobody probably wants to go along with that though, because it’s so restrictive, in that you can’t play two hands, or set the pen, or have extra players. :(
maybe things will work out. consider this proposal by Kasi (our mentor :rolleyes: ) :
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=78940&postcount=85
also BlackjackAvenger had an idea:
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=76632&postcount=13
 

sagefr0g

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Kasi said:
It just came to me - next time let anybody play anytime they want. Anybody can be on the "team" for as long or as short as they want. We'll post 1 sim for some generic game with a spread. Something simple. Maybe double-deck so anybody with a couple decks of cards could give it a shot for the fun of it if they wanted. Low ROR maybe. Use any counting system you want. Then anybody that has results, just post best-guess number of hands and result, any other comments, anytime you feel you played for a while trying as best you can to implement the betting strategy like a good little robot lol. CVBJ or not - honor system is fine. No polygraph tests on this team lol.

Might be interesting to see the ups and downs and maybe get to the long run fairly quickly this way. Periodically figure out how lucky we all are or not.

....lol.
one thing i guess we'd want to consider is do we wanna make it at least a strictly AP against evil casino sort of thing or is it gonna become a tournament sort of scenerio........ :confused:
 

sagefr0g

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i'm sure glad i'm not at a casino

sagethepoisonousfrog*vs*jacktheghostriderjackson

Submit results on these dates:

Schedule: (Start Date/4/17)

*******sage/Jack******

1.4/23:-$905/-130$

2.4/29:-$638/+35$

3.5/05:/-$1,488/+890$

4.5/11:/-$1,468/+705$

5.5/17:/N/A/+220$

5.5/23:

6.5/29:

7.6/04:

8.6/10:

9.6/16:

10.6/22:
__________________________________________________________


lol, hey action jackson i'm on a roll...... :eek:
 

jack.jackson

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sagethepoisonousfrog*vs*jacktheghostriderjackson

Rules:6D,S17,NSA,75%pen,DAS,Lsr .36,HA

Conditions:3plyrs,1-10spread,Play-all,5,000K,BR

Submit results on these dates:

Schedule: (Start Date/4/17)

******Sage/Jack******

1.4/23:-$905/-130$

2.4/29:-$638/+35$

3.5/05:/-$1,488/+890$

4.5/11:/-$1,468/+705$

5.5/17:/N/A/+220$

6.5/23:/N/A/+195$

7.5/29:

8.6/04:

9.6/10:

10.6/16:


__________________________________________________________


Notes: Battling to stay above water.
 

jack.jackson

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sagefr0g said:
lol, hey action jackson i'm on a roll...... :eek:
I dont know, but it will probably be a challenge for you to get back to even.

It appears there's an error in your game. Primarily and most likely your betting.

Whats your betting strategy again?

ps. At least you won 20$ this session.lol

Pss. Update^
 

sagefr0g

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jack said:
I dont know, but it will probably be a challenge for you to get back to even.

It appears there's an error in your game. Most likely your betting.

Whats your betting strategy again?

ps. At least you won 20$ this session.lol
yeah what is it they say..... if they don't get you early on they might not get you...... but they got me fairly early on so... we'll see.
betting:
tc<=0 1unit
tc=1 2unit
tc=2 5unit
tc>=3 10unit (this is where i'm gettiin slam dunked lol)
i'm only playing one hand not spreading to more hands. gotta keep Kasi happy lol.
this all per the sim show in the link below:
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=76684&postcount=17
right the twenty bucks thrilled me.... no joke lol.
 

jack.jackson

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sagefr0g said:
yeah what is it they say..... if they don't get you early on they might not get you...... but they got me fairly early on so... we'll see.
betting:
tc<=0 1unit
tc=1 2unit
tc=2 5unit
tc>=3 10unit (this is where i'm gettiin slam dunked lol)
i'm only playing one hand not spreading to more hands. gotta keep Kasi happy lol.
this all per the sim show in the link below:
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=76684&postcount=17
right the twenty bucks thrilled me.... no joke lol.
Im gonna have a talk with Kasi:eyepatch:

You need to re-modulate the sheild harmonics.

Ps. Then how did you end with an eight? I would think it should 5 or Zero?
 
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