try and be an idiot
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jack.jackson
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update
sagethepoisonousfrog*vs*jacktheghostriderjackson
Rules:6D,S17,NSA,75%pen,DAS,Lsr .36,HA
Conditions:3plyrs,1-10spread,Play-all,5,000K,BR
Submit results on these dates:
Schedule: (Start Date/4/17)
******Sage/Jack******
1.4/23:-$905/-130$
2.4/29:-$638/+35$
3.5/05:/-$1,488/+890$
4.5/11:/-$1,468/+705$
5.5/17:/-$1,752/+220$
6.5/23:/-$3,292/+195$
7.5/29:/N/A+275$
8.6/04:/N/A/+580$
9.6/10:
10.6/16:
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Notes: Alot of action this session. Actually Sunk into the red, for a couple shoes until I hit a hot streak and sailed to a high of 580$ on my last shoe. The last hand actually called for two of 50$, but decided to stick to just one, whcih I ended up winning. But had I spead to two hands, I would of raked in 125$ to put me at 655$
Damn! Oh well, Im happy to be where I'm at.
ps. If I end up In the Red, by the time this is over, I will actually be devastated..lol
sagethepoisonousfrog*vs*jacktheghostriderjackson
Rules:6D,S17,NSA,75%pen,DAS,Lsr .36,HA
Conditions:3plyrs,1-10spread,Play-all,5,000K,BR
Submit results on these dates:
Schedule: (Start Date/4/17)
******Sage/Jack******
1.4/23:-$905/-130$
2.4/29:-$638/+35$
3.5/05:/-$1,488/+890$
4.5/11:/-$1,468/+705$
5.5/17:/-$1,752/+220$
6.5/23:/-$3,292/+195$
7.5/29:/N/A+275$
8.6/04:/N/A/+580$
9.6/10:
10.6/16:
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Notes: Alot of action this session. Actually Sunk into the red, for a couple shoes until I hit a hot streak and sailed to a high of 580$ on my last shoe. The last hand actually called for two of 50$, but decided to stick to just one, whcih I ended up winning. But had I spead to two hands, I would of raked in 125$ to put me at 655$
Damn! Oh well, Im happy to be where I'm at.ps. If I end up In the Red, by the time this is over, I will actually be devastated..lol
sagefr0g
Well-Known Member
yeah well see it's like this with this blackjack game of mine:jack said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXn4dfG0fP8
jack.jackson
Well-Known Member
Sorry about the Blues sage :violin::sad:sagefr0g said:
Have you ever heard "Lenny" by SRV or Corey Stevens/Blue Drops of rain?
Johnny Lang or Big head Todd fan?
Once smoked pot with Shirley King at Sadies Marion,il
sagefr0g
Well-Known Member
erhh no i didn't. but now i have. see the blues ain't so bad lol.jack said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YIHvK5WN7I&feature=related
to where we was speaking makin music as opposed to playing notes....
just maybe this cat has it down. :cat:
sagefr0g
Well-Known Member
and now the end is near... but i did it my way
sagethepoisonousfrog*vs*jacktheghostriderjackson
Rules:6D,S17,NSA,75%pen,DAS,Lsr .36,HA
Conditions:3plyrs,1-10spread,Play-all,5,000K,BR
Submit results on these dates:
Schedule: (Start Date/4/17)
******Sage/Jack******
1.4/23:-$905/-130$
2.4/29:-$638/+35$
3.5/05:/-$1,488/+890$
4.5/11:/-$1,468/+705$
5.5/17:/-$1,752/+220$
6.5/23:/-$3,292/+195$
7.5/29:/-$3,635/+275$
8.6/04:/../+580$
9.6/10:
10.6/16:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbgB6X6S5c
sagethepoisonousfrog*vs*jacktheghostriderjackson
Rules:6D,S17,NSA,75%pen,DAS,Lsr .36,HA
Conditions:3plyrs,1-10spread,Play-all,5,000K,BR
Submit results on these dates:
Schedule: (Start Date/4/17)
******Sage/Jack******
1.4/23:-$905/-130$
2.4/29:-$638/+35$
3.5/05:/-$1,488/+890$
4.5/11:/-$1,468/+705$
5.5/17:/-$1,752/+220$
6.5/23:/-$3,292/+195$
7.5/29:/-$3,635/+275$
8.6/04:/../+580$
9.6/10:
10.6/16:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbgB6X6S5c
jack.jackson
Well-Known Member
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sagethepoisonousfrog*vs*jacktheghostriderjackson
Rules:6D,S17,NSA,75%pen,DAS,Lsr .36,HA
Conditions:3plyrs,1-10spread,Play-all,5,000K,BR
Submit results on these dates:
Schedule: (Start Date/4/17)
******Sage/Jack******
1.4/23:-$905/-130$
2.4/29:-$638/+35$
3.5/05:/-$1,488/+890$
4.5/11:/-$1,468/+705$
5.5/17:/-$1,752/+220$
6.5/23:/-$3,292/+195$
7.5/29:/-$3,635/+275$
8.6/04:/../+580$
9.6/10:N/A/+570$
10.6/16:/N/A/+2,275$$$
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Full Update tommorow:Beautiful run of cards.
Kasi, is there a way you could calcultae my +ev and win-rate??
Cool video. Watched it a few months ago. Like Elviz version a little better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbgB6X6S5c[/QUOTE]
sagethepoisonousfrog*vs*jacktheghostriderjackson
Rules:6D,S17,NSA,75%pen,DAS,Lsr .36,HA
Conditions:3plyrs,1-10spread,Play-all,5,000K,BR
Submit results on these dates:
Schedule: (Start Date/4/17)
******Sage/Jack******
1.4/23:-$905/-130$
2.4/29:-$638/+35$
3.5/05:/-$1,488/+890$
4.5/11:/-$1,468/+705$
5.5/17:/-$1,752/+220$
6.5/23:/-$3,292/+195$
7.5/29:/-$3,635/+275$
8.6/04:/../+580$
9.6/10:N/A/+570$
10.6/16:/N/A/+2,275$$$
__________________________________________________________
Full Update tommorow:Beautiful run of cards.
Kasi, is there a way you could calcultae my +ev and win-rate??
Cool video. Watched it a few months ago. Like Elviz version a little better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbgB6X6S5c[/QUOTE]
sagefr0g
Well-Known Member
[/QUOTE]jack said:sagethepoisonousfrog*vs*jacktheghostriderjackson
Rules:6D,S17,NSA,75%pen,DAS,Lsr .36,HA
Conditions:3plyrs,1-10spread,Play-all,5,000K,BR
Submit results on these dates:
Schedule: (Start Date/4/17)
******Sage/Jack******
1.4/23:-$905/-130$
2.4/29:-$638/+35$
3.5/05:/-$1,488/+890$
4.5/11:/-$1,468/+705$
5.5/17:/-$1,752/+220$
6.5/23:/-$3,292/+195$
7.5/29:/-$3,635/+275$
8.6/04:/../+580$
9.6/10:N/A/+570$
10.6/16:/N/A/+2,275$$$
__________________________________________________________
Full Update tommorow:Beautiful run of cards.
Kasi, is there a way you could calcultae my +ev and win-rate??
Cool video. Watched it a few months ago. Like Elviz version a little better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbgB6X6S5c
well nice job jack-theghostrider-jackson! :1st:
looks like i've got about 2,340 more hands to play or so. i might need to borrow some of your $2,275.00 to do it lol.
but maybe i'll have a beautiful run. i hope so. after all from my logs it looks to me i was betting as prescribed on the proper TC's and all. but i guess i'll need some help from some sweet standard deviation to catch you or even get back even.
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About the best I could do is use the sim that Froggy been's trying to play to lately as he "toes the line" etc and assume you were doing the same thing. So, spreading to more hands, or whatever, would just be a deviation from it. But, you know, if you did a lot of it, or maybe alot cover betting or make a crazy big bet at some point, etc, it might not really be the game you should compare your results against or to whatever extent just be that much more doubt of what they might actually reflect. But, you know, maybe if not very much of it, then it's likely closer to what that sim's EV called for.jack said:
Anyway, assuming you were playing with Froggy's sim as the yardstick, and spreading what and when it said, applying its underlying assumptions, etc, sure, it's a piece of cake. It's the easiest part of any of this when you have something to compare your play against.
Just tell Froggy how many hands you played (best guess or a range) and Froggy will tell you lol.
It's also something one could do after each of those sessions as one goes along. Like it might be interesting to see how unusual some of the bigger swings were for just the session they happened in. If you want, break out hands played by session (guess as best you can) and Froggy or I will do both. Or high points and low points and when they occurred might be interesting. Although, can't help u with that one anyway lol.
For Froggy's sim, avg bet is 2.173 units per round, SD is 3.81 units per hand and EV% overall is 0.00939 if you want to fool around with those numbers.
And nice going!
jack.jackson
Well-Known Member
Was probably just good luck.
On shoe # 270, My Goal was just to be at 1,000. By shoe# 280, I was around 1200-1300 and was very reluctant to bet Maxbets when called for, In fear of Losing my goal of 1,000. Not one to chicken out, I reluctantly keep playing it by the book. I just kept pushing them out there when called for. And WW, Im glad I did.
At the half-way mark,(#150,(5/10) I tried Modifying my betting strategy into a more conservative approach:
My Betting Indices(Subsitution,for TC method)
(Discard Tray)
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6D:
>
5D:+3/+4(83%pen)
>+5/+7
4D:+7/+10
>
3D:+11/+15
>
2D:+15/+21
>
1D:+21/+27
>
_____________Empty
First RC Index(Bet=25$)
Second RC Index(Bet=25x25)
Note: I would only go to 25$ bet first, even if the RC went to second Index
Say theirs 2 decks in the Discard tray and my RC is +15(Bet25$)WIN or LOSE this then jump to 25x25 provided second index or higher.
Then Provided I WON the 25x25 and the RC was the second index or higher, I would then bet 50x50
Win or lose 50x50, stick with it provided second index or higher.
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By shoe# 240,(8/10) I really wasnt getting anywhere and Decided to go back to the way I was doing it for the first 1/2 of the contest. Which everythings the same, except the 25$ bet, is replaced by 50$ and of course the 25x25 is replaced by (50x50)
Only this time, Insted of the traditional Ace side-count for the A02(I might add, doesnt work very well for shoe games. Could be a cumulative effect, not sure) I Broke out the A-2vs3,5+1 to convert the A02 into wong-halves for betting(1223210-1-2-2)
Note: Used this secondary before.
Unconcerned how much the added points might affect the Ao2 strategy, if at all. I gave it a whirl. Low and Behold it just seemed to click. It was working quite well.
But Hold the phone sage. This isnt all. I also used the secondary count, not only to enhance my betting, but my play of hand as well. Think Ive been in the sun to long??? Check it out:
Plug the A02 count into the main count. And plug in A-2 vs 3,5+1 Into the secondary, then view the multiparamet table, BELOW the Index chart.
You will see Doubling A6-A9, 7-10,(ExceptXvsX(5points each) And Hitting 13,14,15,16, vs X,A are all virtually Double Secondary value. Easy enough.
http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/tcindex/tcindex.htm (Archive copy)See:99vs7
For example, if my hand was A9vs5, and my secondary count was +5, I would ADD + 10 to my RC.
For Stiffs vs Bust its just single Value(Just add or subtract)The secondary to the running count.
And for every 1 Positive Point in the secondary, subtract one for Doubling A2-A5. Likewise Add if your negative in the secondary.
When I Implemented this, I was a little slow at first, but quickly gained speed as the shoes went by.
A02=1122210-1-2
Note: I count each A,3,5 as soon as theyre see. This is very tricky, Because I count them in pairs, in the main count. For example, My hand(3) =(0/+1)
Dealer(X)=(-2/+1) My Hand(Ace on top the 3(3,A)=(-1/-1)
After some experimentation I feel this is the best way.
Note: Iactually start the secondary @(0/50) to eliminate the 2 counts from mixing together to counts. +48= -2
I actually thought about keeping it @ Zero and using letters, In lieu of the just the negative #s (G=-7,K=-11,A=-1etc...) This would take a little practice.
Anyway where was I.............................. ......................... ?????????????:joker: .........Oh ya. After Slowy Integrating all this crazy **** into the strategy, I put it in 6th gear and said fughedaboutit.
Ps. Could you manipulate your results, with CVBJ????
Get back to your post tommorrow Kasi:sleep: Good nite
Kept my pen between 70-75%(FIRM)Shorting myself on pen actually cost ne a few$.Did not cheat myself 1 single $
http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/tcindex/tcindex.htm (Archive copy)
Awww maaan, Thank you, what a wild ride. It was a gratifying experience. Its taken alot of practice through the years.sagefr0g said:
On shoe # 270, My Goal was just to be at 1,000. By shoe# 280, I was around 1200-1300 and was very reluctant to bet Maxbets when called for, In fear of Losing my goal of 1,000. Not one to chicken out, I reluctantly keep playing it by the book. I just kept pushing them out there when called for. And W
W, Im glad I did. At the half-way mark,(#150,(5/10) I tried Modifying my betting strategy into a more conservative approach:
My Betting Indices(Subsitution,for TC method)
(Discard Tray)
___________________________
6D:
>
5D:+3/+4(83%pen)
>+5/+7
4D:+7/+10
>
3D:+11/+15
>
2D:+15/+21
>
1D:+21/+27
>
_____________Empty
First RC Index(Bet=25$)
Second RC Index(Bet=25x25)
Note: I would only go to 25$ bet first, even if the RC went to second Index
Say theirs 2 decks in the Discard tray and my RC is +15(Bet25$)WIN or LOSE this then jump to 25x25 provided second index or higher.
Then Provided I WON the 25x25 and the RC was the second index or higher, I would then bet 50x50
Win or lose 50x50, stick with it provided second index or higher.
____________________________________________________________
By shoe# 240,(8/10) I really wasnt getting anywhere and Decided to go back to the way I was doing it for the first 1/2 of the contest. Which everythings the same, except the 25$ bet, is replaced by 50$ and of course the 25x25 is replaced by (50x50)
Only this time, Insted of the traditional Ace side-count for the A02(I might add, doesnt work very well for shoe games. Could be a cumulative effect, not sure) I Broke out the A-2vs3,5+1 to convert the A02 into wong-halves for betting(1223210-1-2-2)
Note: Used this secondary before.
Unconcerned how much the added points might affect the Ao2 strategy, if at all. I gave it a whirl. Low and Behold it just seemed to click. It was working quite well.
But Hold the phone sage. This isnt all. I also used the secondary count, not only to enhance my betting, but my play of hand as well. Think Ive been in the sun to long??? Check it out:
Plug the A02 count into the main count. And plug in A-2 vs 3,5+1 Into the secondary, then view the multiparamet table, BELOW the Index chart.
You will see Doubling A6-A9, 7-10,(ExceptXvsX(5points each) And Hitting 13,14,15,16, vs X,A are all virtually Double Secondary value. Easy enough.
http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/tcindex/tcindex.htm (Archive copy)See:99vs7
For example, if my hand was A9vs5, and my secondary count was +5, I would ADD + 10 to my RC.
For Stiffs vs Bust its just single Value(Just add or subtract)The secondary to the running count.
And for every 1 Positive Point in the secondary, subtract one for Doubling A2-A5. Likewise Add if your negative in the secondary.
When I Implemented this, I was a little slow at first, but quickly gained speed as the shoes went by.
A02=1122210-1-2
Note: I count each A,3,5 as soon as theyre see. This is very tricky, Because I count them in pairs, in the main count. For example, My hand(3) =(0/+1)
Dealer(X)=(-2/+1) My Hand(Ace on top the 3(3,A)=(-1/-1)
After some experimentation I feel this is the best way.
Note: Iactually start the secondary @(0/50) to eliminate the 2 counts from mixing together to counts. +48= -2
I actually thought about keeping it @ Zero and using letters, In lieu of the just the negative #s (G=-7,K=-11,A=-1etc...) This would take a little practice.
Anyway where was I..............................
......................... ?????????????:joker: .........Oh ya. After Slowy Integrating all this crazy **** into the strategy, I put it in 6th gear and said fughedaboutit.Ps. Could you manipulate your results, with CVBJ????
Get back to your post tommorrow Kasi:sleep: Good nite
Kept my pen between 70-75%(FIRM)Shorting myself on pen actually cost ne a few$.Did not cheat myself 1 single $
http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/tcindex/tcindex.htm (Archive copy)
sagefr0g
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lmao
jj assuming you played your game according to the good book... lmao
and went:
TC Bet
<=0 1u
1 2u
2 5u
>=3 10u
and only played one hand per round ..... lmao
then i'd have you at circa 6,990 hands after 300 shoes......
:devil:jack said:
only those who are with out sin and who have kept the faith shall see the promised land. lmao :angel:Kasi said:
jj assuming you played your game according to the good book... lmao
and went:
TC Bet
<=0 1u
1 2u
2 5u
>=3 10u
and only played one hand per round ..... lmao
then i'd have you at circa 6,990 hands after 300 shoes......
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sagefr0g
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good grief jj ! i't gonna take me a while to digest all that stuff you wrote about that i dotted out above. loljack said:
Awww maaan, Thank you, what a wild ride. It was a gratifying experience. Its taken alot of practice through the years.
.........
Ps. Could you manipulate your results, with CVBJ????
......
but yes i could manipulate my results with CVBJ. in many ways :devil:
but i haven't. uhmm i did check and verify my count from time to time however as i played along. only for the reasons that the main thrust of the contest was for practice counting, betting and strategy plays and also for a few technical reasons.
one part of the results i might manipulate is the first sixty shoes where i didn't play entirely according to Kasi, oops i mean hoyle lol. but for those shoes if i go in my logs and change the bets to be in line with the sim that was our yard stick then it may put my part of the contest into better position to be analyzed as to just what happened in light of that simulation. but more on that later. i still got some where around 2340 hands to play. that is if i don't run outa cash. but even if i do run out i guess i'll take a marker and keep playing out the shoes and just see what happens.
well gotta get some zzzzs :sleep:
jack.jackson
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O" Sorry about all that Mumbo-Jumbo. I should of just left that all out.sagefr0g said:
Besides the Month or two, I spent on Alternative-Betting. Its Honestly the first time Ive practiced MD in about 7 years. I quit playing all together for about 3 yrs. Once I started training again, I decided to go with a 2D approach. Let it be Known, I at least think I have that game clocked. Multiple Decks However, dont take any prisoners. They will take everything you own if your not careful. To even, Break-even in a play-all enviroment is a challenge in itself. All things being equal, I honestly believe I could yield more in -.6 DD, than I could in a -.36 6D but who knows. As soon as I get Cvbj, Ill probably want to do this again sometime. Waiting for your next update.
What I found interesting in this project however...is i used it, as a tool that inspired to motivate me to practice. Someone to compare your results against I guess..
My closest Riverboat is an hr away w/5$ tables DAS,RSA,75%pen,H17, I was wondering if you knew what my ror might be w 1,000 BR/wongouts also?
sagefr0g
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not mumbo jumbo lol. just a bit much for my pea brain to assimilate. get me away from the two measly games s17daslsr & s17das six or eight decker's and away from the hi/lo count and i'm a lost puppy.jack said:
but for your 5$ tables DAS,RSA,75%pen,H17, and wondering what your ror might be w 1,000 BR/wongouts i can only give you an idea for the h17das 75%pen $5 table with a one grand bankroll. couldn't find a sim for the RSA part. well and you didn't suggest a spread or ramp so i just went with 1:10 rational bets and you always wong out at TC <=-1 . where you bet
1u @ tc=1, 2u @ tc=2, 5u @ tc=3 & 10u @ tc >=4 . that's set for optimal betting for bankroll growth.
came up with a pretty wicked ROR = 54.7% .
and a win/rate of $4.73/hour.
oh yeah and this all for a table with seven players and just using I18 matrices where you use the hi/lo count. not sure how the tc was calculated on this sim i'm guessing flooring or rounding was used.
i used CVCX to get this info. i hope i didn't mess it up.
sorry i couldn't be more precise on your parameters. just tryed and rush jobbed this approximation sorta info to ya.
now back to the 'game contest of the millenium' lol
sagefr0g
Well-Known Member
struggle, struggle, shwew
sagethepoisonousfrog*vs*jacktheghostriderjackson
Rules:6D,S17,NSA,75%pen,DAS,Lsr .36,HA
Conditions:3plyrs,1-10spread,Play-all,5,000K,BR
Submit results on these dates:
Schedule: (Start Date/4/17)
******Sage/Jack******
1.4/23:-$905/-130$
2.4/29:-$638/+35$
3.5/05:/-$1,488/+890$
4.5/11:/-$1,468/+705$
5.5/17:/-$1,752/+220$
6.5/23:/-$3,292/+195$
7.5/29:/-$3,635/+275$
8.6/04:/-$955/+580$
9.6/10:/na/+570$
10.6/16:/na/+2,275$
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5514 hands now. been holding my breath those last two shoes. lol
about 1,560 hands to go.... lol need to get a chunk of that standard deviation i been dreamin about....
sagethepoisonousfrog*vs*jacktheghostriderjackson
Rules:6D,S17,NSA,75%pen,DAS,Lsr .36,HA
Conditions:3plyrs,1-10spread,Play-all,5,000K,BR
Submit results on these dates:
Schedule: (Start Date/4/17)
******Sage/Jack******
1.4/23:-$905/-130$
2.4/29:-$638/+35$
3.5/05:/-$1,488/+890$
4.5/11:/-$1,468/+705$
5.5/17:/-$1,752/+220$
6.5/23:/-$3,292/+195$
7.5/29:/-$3,635/+275$
8.6/04:/-$955/+580$
9.6/10:/na/+570$
10.6/16:/na/+2,275$
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5514 hands now. been holding my breath those last two shoes. lol
about 1,560 hands to go.... lol need to get a chunk of that standard deviation i been dreamin about....
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jack.jackson
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I cant believe it You mean to tell me you went on a 2700$ run? Holy buda of jesus, Im worrird. Nice!!!
I want to see the graph. Graph please!
You mean to tell me you went on a 2700$ run? Holy buda of jesus, Im worrird. Nice!!!I want to see the graph. Graph please!
Cool - I figured it was a typo lol.sagefr0g said:
How many hands was that $2700 gain? That has to be pretty far out there on the old bell-shaped curve?!
Bout time something good happened to someone who went 16 hands in a row twice without a win in like less than 650 hands
I'm a little jealous - I don't think I ever did that once in 200,000 hands lol.You know that curve has a middle too in case you didn't know it lmao.
sagefr0g
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yeah that chart i replaced had the wrong number of hands. i think i got it right now. http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=80025&postcount=135Kasi said:Cool - I figured it was a typo lol.
How many hands was that $2700 gain? That has to be pretty far out there on the old bell-shaped curve?!
Bout time something good happened to someone who went 16 hands in a row twice without a win in like less than 650 hands
You know that curve has a middle too in case you didn't know it lmao.
the $2,680 was i believe 688 hands from checkiing my logs. am i reading that right? did i almost rake in three standard deviations on that session? so i guess that makes up for my stellar perfomance on the above mentioned 650 hands lol.
that might of been when i got a little teary eyed lol. think i broke my knuckles slammin them on the desktop lol.
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Well, I guess since it's about halfway in between the high of 2 SD and 3 SD, it's be about 2.5 sd from expected.sagefr0g said:
Put another way, I think that means 98.75% of the time your results will be within +-2.5 SD.
Put another way, once in 80 times you will win more than 2.5 SD and 1 in 80 times you will lose more than 2.5 SD.
Basically, count on winning or losing more than that 1.25% of the time you play 688 hands. I think that's what it means anyway lol. Basically, I guess it's not maybe really incredibly unusual or anything like that?
How lucky did it subjectively feel to you or how cursed did you subjectively feel in some of those sessions you lost alot in? Just curious lol. I always felt incredibly cursed, suspected foul play, and then I'd maybe figure out so what I suffered a 1 in 500 event. It happens. Could you do the same thing for your biggest losing session while "toeing the line".
Don't break your knuckles - I prefer my friend's method who always keeps a pitching wedge nearby and just destroys furniture with it until the police come. But that was a real $11,000 that he managed to lose, he had won it on the internet over a few weeks, in 3 hours while watching the Super Bowl lol. At least it was their money