happy hour blackjack! what would odds on this be?

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Quinc

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so i was looking up the siena my new favorite casino here i reno and i found this on there site.

Monday-Friday ~ 10 to 11 am
Bonus Situations
• Shared Hand Bonus. Anytime there are two or more blackjacks on one round of play, those who have the blackjacks will be paid Double the Bet up to $25 and all other players at the table (including the dealer) will receive a $5 bonus. A dealer’s blackjack will count as one of the hands.
• 6 Discard. When a 10 and 6 are a player’s first two cards, player may discard the 6 one time to recreate the first two cards. If redraw is an Ace, hand plays as 21.
• Suited Blackjacks will be paid 2:1 up to $25.
• Suited 6, 7, 8 pays Double the Bet up to $25 and all other players get a $5 bonus
• Three 7’s pays Double the Bet up to $25 and all other players get a $5 bonus
Table Limit $5 to $25 per hand.
Happy Hour Blackjack is played on designated tables only. No coupons allowed. In order to accommodate the maximum number of guests, players may only play one hand at a time.

so if i where to only play during happy hour any idea what my odds might be?

single deck d.d. on any 2 cards, dealer hits soft 17, 3/4 penetration.
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

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This needs a sim, but it would appear to add more than 1% to the $5 unit counter's advantage and you may bet accordingly. However. zg
 
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Quinc

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i will have to check it out and see what happens.. also the sunday paper came out and it had 10$ match plays woohoo.
 
Sonny

Sonny

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Quinc said:
• Suited Blackjacks will be paid 2:1 up to $25.
• Suited 6, 7, 8 pays Double the Bet up to $25
• Three 7’s pays Double the Bet up to $25
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The three rules above will give you over a 2% advantage playing basic strategy. I don’t know the exact value of the additional $5 bonuses, but they will be huge! If you can also count cards and vary your bets from $5-$25 you can make a fortune playing this game, even for just an hour each day…if you can find a seat! :eek:

-Sonny-
 
Mikeaber

Mikeaber

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Hmmmm....one day a week, one hour a day. I wonder just how many suits would be hovering over that particular table(s)? Sure sounds good though!
 
bj bob

bj bob

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It's too bad

That poor NC Tom can't take advantage of this sweet deal! See if you weren't so damn greedy, NC you could make a fortune with this setup. Hope this deal is around for awhile at least until I get out there. By that time I'm sure Zg and the other wizards will tell us exactly what the adv. is. Something tells me that there are going to be more of these promos in Reno because they are getting slammed by the three Indian casinos off of I-80 from the Bay Area. I've been getting near giveaways from the Legacy etc. on room rates($33/night, wkdys,1/2 price wkends etc.)Maybe they will think twice about that@#@$#@%$#@ 6:5 .Well ,one can hope,no?
 
bj bob

bj bob

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Congrats Quinc!

By the way, I noticed that you've just entered the exclusive world of senior membership. First thing you do is hit Mikeaber up for some of his E-weed and then you can comp the other seniors to a free week in Reno!
 
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nc-tom

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Quinc said:
so i was looking up the siena my new favorite casino here i reno and i found this on there site.

Monday-Friday ~ 10 to 11 am
Bonus Situations
• Shared Hand Bonus. Anytime there are two or more blackjacks on one round of play, those who have the blackjacks will be paid Double the Bet up to $25 and all other players at the table (including the dealer) will receive a $5 bonus. A dealer’s blackjack will count as one of the hands.
• 6 Discard. When a 10 and 6 are a player’s first two cards, player may discard the 6 one time to recreate the first two cards. If redraw is an Ace, hand plays as 21.
• Suited Blackjacks will be paid 2:1 up to $25.
• Suited 6, 7, 8 pays Double the Bet up to $25 and all other players get a $5 bonus
• Three 7’s pays Double the Bet up to $25 and all other players get a $5 bonus
Table Limit $5 to $25 per hand.
Happy Hour Blackjack is played on designated tables only. No coupons allowed. In order to accommodate the maximum number of guests, players may only play one hand at a time.

so if i where to only play during happy hour any idea what my odds might be?

single deck d.d. on any 2 cards, dealer hits soft 17, 3/4 penetration.
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Whoa this sounds like a great deal. Guess I will have to shave my head ,dress like a rabbi and give the place another try.Congradulations Quinc on becoming a senior member. Guess you can now hit up ZG and Mikeaber for your free coffee and LSD. Enjoy:)
 
bj bob

bj bob

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Preliminary observations....

I just got done "playing "this game(on kitchen table) to see any unusual anomolies. So far this sticks out: 1)the burn of the X6 is GREAT!!! Within about an hour of play time the sit. came up 5-6 times and I ended up turning a losing hand into a winner 3 times. 2) The suited BJ came up twice and 3)The double blackjack came up twice. I realize that it's too short to be really scientific,but I got the thought process started. No use counting on the suited 6-7-8 or the 7-7-7...not going to happen within an hour(even 10)Also, on first glance,it would seem that keeping the flat bet in the $5-10 range provides better opportunity against the $25 max. payout ,also I would think that it would do wonders for deviation.Ken,Zg etal., any more imput? P.S. I kept track w/ chips and wound up an extra 7.5 units in 1.5 hrs.)
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

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bj bob said:
I just got done "playing "this game(on kitchen table) to see any unusual anomolies. So far this sticks out: 1)the burn of the X6 is GREAT!!! Within about an hour of play time the sit. came up 5-6 times and I ended up turning a losing hand into a winner 3 times. 2) The suited BJ came up twice and 3)The double blackjack came up twice. I realize that it's too short to be really scientific,but I got the thought process started. No use counting on the suited 6-7-8 or the 7-7-7...not going to happen within an hour(even 10)Also, on first glance,it would seem that keeping the flat bet in the $5-10 range provides better opportunity against the $25 max. payout ,also I would think that it would do wonders for deviation.Ken,Zg etal., any more imput? P.S. I kept track w/ chips and wound up an extra 7.5 units in 1.5 hrs.)
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Statistically your table-top sim is meaningless! zg
 
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Quinc

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nc-tom said:
Whoa this sounds like a great deal. Guess I will have to shave my head ,dress like a rabbi and give the place another try.Congradulations Quinc on becoming a senior member. Guess you can now hit up ZG and Mikeaber for your free coffee and LSD. Enjoy:)
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woohoo lsd and coffee! :celebrate:


so what you guys think? should i just play 5$ min for an hour and see what happens? no counting? or maybe just a little bit of counting....

also what i'm thinking is that the only real kicker to this deal is the switching out a 6 in a 10-6. as far as 2 people getting blackjacks i cant see there being more then maybe 2-3 people playing blackjack anywhere in reno at 10am on a tuesday - thursday.
 
Sonny

Sonny

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Quinc said:
so what you guys think? should i just play 5$ min for an hour and see what happens? no counting? or maybe just a little bit of counting....
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I don’t know what your bankroll is like, but you could probably get away with $10 bets in this game. A $5 flat bet would be safe to start though. Your bankroll should start to grow pretty quickly.

I would go ahead and count while you play. You might want to raise your bet slightly when nobody is looking. Also, the BS departures will help a lot in a single-deck game.

Quinc said:
as far as 2 people getting blackjacks i cant see there being more then maybe 2-3 people playing blackjack anywhere in reno at 10am on a tuesday - thursday.
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That may depend on how soon I can book a flight! Keep the tables warm for me. I have a feeling that A LOT of people will be coming out of the woodwork for this deal, especially if Wong hears about it.

-Sonny-
 
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Quinc

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well crap i should have kept my mouth shut.. :cry:

i ment to go play this morning but i slept instead. :(
 
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Gregory

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• Suited Blackjacks will be paid 2:1 up to $25.
• Suited 6, 7, 8 pays Double the Bet up to $25 and all other players get a $5 bonus
• Three 7’s pays Double the Bet up to $25 and all other players get a $5 bonus
Table Limit $5 to $25 per hand.
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So how whould they handle the payout on a player's suited blackjack when the player has a $25.00 table limit bet out? Since they will pay 2:1 up to $25.00 then a blackjack with a $25.00 bet would be paid at 1:1? Or would the blackjack be paid at the more standard 3:2?
Shouldn't the max bet be something like $12.50 to maximize the 2:1 payouts that have a $25.00 cut off?
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

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Gregory said:
So how whould they handle the payout on a player's suited blackjack when the player has a $25.00 table limit bet out? Since they will pay 2:1 up to $25.00 then a blackjack with a $25.00 bet would be paid at 1:1? Or would the blackjack be paid at the more standard 3:2?
Shouldn't the max bet be something like $12.50 to maximize the 2:1 payouts that have a $25.00 cut off?
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I took it to mean up to $25 bet. zg
 
bj bob

bj bob

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Good point

The wording is ambiguous. I thought it stated "BJs will be paid a $25 max" Could go either way. Let's send a scout over there to get the official skinny. BJ
 
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Quinc

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yeah i will go first thing on monday morning.

also before you all fly over remember that it is only from 10am-11am mon-fri.

hey zg when you going to sim this and let me know what the best strategy is?:D this might be a good chance for me to start building that 5k b.r.
 
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Quinc

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zengrifter said:
Two questions -
1. Whats the min. bet?, and,
2. Whats your current BR? zg
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bet is 5 min - 25 max

lets say a b.r of 500 and 1000 depends on when my first fire is.
 
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