Max Rubin, counter-catcher?

zengrifter

Banned
My last emails with Rubin. zg
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> > >From: [email protected]
> > >To: [email protected]
> > >
> > Your interview was a great read. However,
> > credentials alone don't qualify anyone for the Blackjack Ball. You also
> > have to be recommended by a regular attendee and
> > approved by the Blackjack Ball selection committee. Given
> > your extensive background in the craft, I'm sure that
> > you know many of the regulars. If you do, please have
> > one of them contact me regarding a potential
> > invitation.
> > >
> > >Max
> > >
> > >P.s. I have to be frank and tell you that your
> > >admission that you became a government informant
> > and went out of your way to entrap strangers into
> > committing crimes to get your sentence reduced
> > could be very troubling to the selection committee.

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> > > griftzen replied:
> > >
> > >Max - Frankly, I didn't know previously that
> > there was a formal committee, either.
> > As for the 'informat' part of my life,

> > I understand that it could be troubling for some...
> > but these were carreer

> > telephone-fraudsters who were
> > taking down hundreds of millions in retirees'
> > IRA funds.
> >
> > I will see about
getting a referral and I won't
> > get my hopes up
in any event.
> > > >
> > > > Ps - Some have found it troubling that you once
> > >worked for the casinos catching counters... but I'm
> > ok with it ;) regards, m

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>--- Arnold Snyder wrote:
>
> > Uh Marcus,
> >
> > Max Rubin has never for even one day worked as a
> > counter catcher. That probably was not the thing to say
> >to get into the
party.
> >
> > I will talk with Max, but I believe that your best
> > shot would be to let it rest for this year, since
> > the party is probably at

> > limit anyway, and let me
> > bring it up for next year.
> >
> > Hang in there,
> > Arnold

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> >Then Arnold Snyder wrote:
> >
> >Actually, I have found out you were right about
> >[Rubin being a counter-catcher].

> >
> >Sorry,
> >Arnold
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Max Rubin on card-counter detection


The following quotations were taken from Max Rubin's sworn deposition, on 08/30/1994 at the Tropicana Hotel:

Q: Lawyer Daily to (Max Rubin): How long did you work as a card counter catcher?
A: Rubin Answers: A year, year and a half.
Q: Lawyer Daily: Could you tell me what your duties as a card counter catcher were?
A: Rubin Answers: Several. One I was--I had the pit, the double deck pit on grave yard where essentially the high limit play was on the Mirage on that particular shift and I was responsible for our looking at the high limit play, observe the betting patterns, those sort of things. Observing just the act the people put on, trying to identify people that were together and recognizing some sort of team play.”

...more - http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/greenbaize21/maxrubin.htm (Archive copy)
 
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Canceler

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I'm thinking you should cancel any plans for opening the Zengrifter School of Diplomacy. :laugh:
 

zengrifter

Banned
ihate17 said:
Groucho deserves some credit.
A couple of times I have thought about going to the ball and knew I would be in Vegas on those dates but I have always been kind of a semi lone wolf.ihate17


There's three 'Balls" - The Greenchip, the Victor Nacht Halloween Ball, and
the Rubin Ball (for the REAL PROS, invite strictly by "selection committee").

Maybe Ken will announce a Ball - The WBPITTW Ball. zg


My Acid Trip with Groucho
 
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shadroch

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zengrifter said:


There's three 'Balls" - The Greenchip, the Victor Nacht Halloween Ball, and
the Rubin Ball (for the REAL PROS, invite strictly by "selection committee). "

Maybe Ken will announce a Ball - The WBPITTW Ball. zg


My Acid Trip with Groucho

That answers a question I was just about to ask.I'd been invited to a ball,and it didn't seem all that exclusive.But I'm pretty sure it was Victor Nachts one.
 

zengrifter

Banned
shadroch said:
That answers a question I was just about to ask. I'd been invited to a ball,and it didn't seem all that exclusive. But I'm pretty sure it was Victor Nachts one.
The world is ready for the FOURTH BALL - THE 'WBPITTW' - where everyone's invited and nobody shows! zg
 
Being they are invited to a blackjack ball run by a professional counter-catcher, the smart thing to do would be to send someone else in your stead. Maybe a craps player. That would keep them guessing.

Honestly, if I was invited to something like this I wouldn't go. There's bound to be more fun at a church social. Better looking girls too.
 

zengrifter

Banned
Automatic Monkey said:
Being they are invited to a blackjack ball run by a professional counter-catcher...
Only REAL PROS would go for something that ludicrous.
But what about the WBPITTW Ball? zg
 
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Canceler

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zengrifter said:
The world is ready for the FOURTH BALL - THE 'WBPITTW' - where everyone's invited and nobody shows! zg
The Weirdest Blackjack Players In This Troubled World Ball?

Shoot, I wouldn't go either.
 

zengrifter

Banned
zengrifter said:
There's three 'Balls" - The Greenchip, the Victor Nacht Halloween Ball, and the Rubin Ball (for the REAL PROS, invite strictly by "selection committee").

Maybe Ken will announce a Ball - The WBPITTW Ball.
Was there no Nacht Halloween Ball this year? zg
 

Sonny

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zengrifter said:
Was there no Nacht Halloween Ball this year? zg
Nope. I guess he wasn't getting the participation he was hoping for. He and Betty really worked their butts off at the last two parties so I guess they're ready for a break.

-Sonny-
 

aslan

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zengrifter said:
The world is ready for the FOURTH BALL - THE 'WBPITTW' - where everyone's invited and nobody shows! zg

I haven't received my invitation, so it sounds like it will be worth attending.
 

21forme

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Why would Pros attend an event associated with someone who consults for the casinos?

I know someone who wound up in Griffin because he was seen in the parking lot of a casino talking to a group of known APs.
 

Sonny

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21forme said:
Why would Pros attend an event associated with someone who consults for the casinos?
Max has done a lot of work that benefits the AP community as well. That's how he got elected into the BJ Hall of Fame.

-Sonny-
 
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