1 deck vs multideck

[Whatsmytotal]

I am learning various counting strategies, mostly from Lawrence Revere's "Playing Blackjack as a business". I am just wondering if his counting strategies are the same for multi deck games as they are for single deck games.

Thanks

 

[zengrifter]

I am learning various counting strategies, mostly from Lawrence Revere's "Playing Blackjack as a business". I am just wondering if his counting strategies are the same for multi deck games as they are for single deck games.

If you plan to play WITH an advantage you'll need to learn thr Revere Point Count - its good for any #decks and its strong. His betting and BR advice is NO GOOD - you'll need to get revised betting advice from us.

Also, do not be tempted to purchase any mail-order systems from his daughter - they are NOT good.

If you want to learn a level-1 count system that is good and doesn't require a true-count then purchase Knockout BJ by Fuchs & Vancura.

Learn more about the late L.Revere by reading The Zengrifter Interview here - http://www.blackjackinfo.com/ZGInterview.pdf

 

[jetace]

Speaking of betting advice, for 1 & 2 deck games. What betting ramp do you use for the Zen count?

 

[zengrifter]

Its different for different rules and pene, but it would be the same for most all level-2 counts including the ReverePC. zg

 

[Whatsmytotal]

If you plan to play WITH an advantage you'll need to learn thr Revere Point Count - its good for any #decks and its strong. His betting and BR advice is NO GOOD - you'll need to get revised betting advice from us.

Also, do not be tempted to purchase any mail-order systems from his daughter - they are NOT good.

If you want to learn a level-1 count system that is good and doesn't require a true-count then purchase Knockout BJ by Fuchs & Vancura.

Learn more about the late L.Revere by reading The Zengrifter Interview here - http://www.blackjackinfo.com/ZGInterview.pdf

Revere says that it is necessary to learn and use the Plus minus count before attempting the Revere point count...

 

[zengrifter]

Revere says that it is necessary to learn and use the Plus minus count before attempting the Revere point count...

The Simple PM is not a winning system. What you MUST DO is fully master basic strategy (multideck) BEFORE you move to a count system.

Aside from BS, the ONLY system worth learning in PBJAAB is the RPC - in fact its the ONLY Revere system worth learning PERIOD. If you are not up for learning that level-2 true-count type system you will need another book or two, beginning with either Blackbelt in BJ or Knockout. zg

Ps - I did follow the instruction and learned the SimplePM first... it was unnecessary. The year was 1974.

 

[Whatsmytotal]

If you plan to play WITH an advantage you'll need to learn thr Revere Point Count - its good for any #decks and its strong. His betting and BR advice is NO GOOD - you'll need to get revised betting advice from us.

Where can I find your betting advice?

Also, if single deck games are more to a counter's advantage, why do counters ever play multi-deck games?

 

[zengrifter]

Also, if single deck games are more to a counter's advantage, why do counters ever play multi-deck games?

Essentially, 1D games are rare, except in Northern Nevada. Vegas has a fair amount of 2D games. Everywhere else is mostly 6-8D.

You cannot get an accurate picture of today's games from a 30-yr old book like PBJAAB. But in the early-mid 70s it was the bible.

You probably need 2-3 more books, to start. zg

 

[Whatsmytotal]

Essentially, 1D games are rare, except in Northern Nevada.

You probably need 2-3 more books, to start. zg

In 1D games in Northern Nevada, do players see other players' cards? In Atlantic City single deck games are offered but the cards are dealt face down.

Can you recommend 2-3 books to start, please?

 

[Whatsmytotal]

Response?

I know my questions are amateurish but I am eager to learn; I would appreciate someone answering my questions...

thanks

 

[Sonny]

Where can I find your betting advice?

You will need to decide on your counting and playing strategy before you can determine a good betting strategy. That will come later. Just focus on learning basic strategy and counting now, in that order.

Also, if single deck games are more to a counter's advantage, why do counters ever play multi-deck games?

In many situations multi-deck games are much more profitable than single-deckers. It all depends on the playing style and techniques the player uses.

In 1D games in Northern Nevada, do players see other players' cards? In Atlantic City single deck games are offered but the cards are dealt face down.

In pitch games (SD and DD) the cards are usually dealt face down (“pitched” to the player). You will still be able to see other player’s cards most of the time anyway. You may be able to see them if the player is sitting 1-2 chairs away from you or when they expose their cards to the dealer for a blackjack, bust, split or double.

Can you recommend 2-3 books to start, please?

I agree with ZG’s advice of Knock-Out Blackjack and/or Blackbelt in Blackjack. Also, be sure to check out the “Free Counting Resources On Web” post at the top of this forum. You can learn most of what you need to know for free from those links.

-Sonny-

 

[ScottH]

I know my questions are amateurish but I am eager to learn; I would appreciate someone answering my questions...

thanks

Here's 3 books to start: Knockout Blackjack by Ken Fuchs and Olaf Vancura, Blackbelt in Blackjack by Arnold Snyder, and Blackjack Attack by Don Shleisenger. After reading these 3 books, and by asking questions on the forums, you will be well on your way to beating the casinos!

 

[Whatsmytotal]

Thank you for all the help.

 

[Whatsmytotal]

I read that in single deck games you will sometimes act not only according to your total, but also to which two cards comprise your total. For example, with 6-2 you would normally hit but if you have 5-3 you will double against a 5 or 6. My question is, do the differences in the components of your total affect the way you play the hand in multideck games as it does in single deck games?

 

[zengrifter]

I read that in single deck games you will sometimes act not only according to your total, but also to which two cards comprise your total. For example, with 6-2 you would normally hit but if you have 5-3 you will double against a 5 or 6. My question is, do the differences in the components of your total affect the way you play the hand in multideck games as it does in single deck games?

No. And you need NOT bother with that hand composition stuff, its value is negligible. zg