Kasi said:
I think I read somewhere where someone explored the possibility of adding a constant factor, say +2, to the RC before converting to TC to accomplish in a different way what I think you are getting at. I think then you still bet what you normally would have at the same TC's. Naturally it effected the frequencies of TC's at the same time. I think lol. I think he did get slightly higher win rates using that +2 factor.
I think Norm's sims were rounding TC's and I haven't a clue what that might mean lol. I guess it would mean a given TC would have a higher frequency but lesser advantage associated with it compared to truncating.
I certainly don't really understand it, except that I guess it exists, but, from what I gather, it's just not very exploitable in real-life. Maybe because it doesn't really kick in until around most shuffle points anyway. I think that's what "the Don" concluded anyway lol.
Maybe it's sort of like the "cut-card effect", except less so. I mean who would have thought that the HA that is assumed by BS is less than the HA when a cut-card is used accounting for why sims give a higher HA when they assume a shuffle after every hand compared to assuming a cut-card and also accounting for why the much-maligned CSM's yield a higher HA to the BS player than games that use a cut-card.
Go figure, a BS player is actually better off playing a CSM. All he has to do is slow things down by 20% or so, pondering deeply and long over his play decisions lol.
I wonder if Betting Indices were Implemented to help compensate for the "Floating Advantage effect".
Bryce Carlson uses Betting Indices(myself as well) but instead of using a specific Indice for every bet, he only requires TWO be learned for every 1/2 deck for the DoubleDeck game; and TWO for every full deck, in multiple-deck games.
In addition to that, theres a betting shceme/strategy that works with the betting Indices that virtually give you the same results as if you were kelly betting.
From the way I understand it, Kelly bettors DONT use any kind of betting strategy, they just put up specific bets at certain TCs.
With the betting Indices and betting schemes that I use, Ive learned that I can make different bet spreads all day long. Sometimes my max bet will 20x20 and sometimes it will be 65x65. And even sometimes Ill make a bet of 25x45.
Note: The second Indice is for two hands.
Also Note: Wether you use betting Indices or the Traditional TC method, The same Betting Technique can be acheived both ways.
Ill have more to say about this later when I start my own thread on it.
