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shadroch

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Yep, it takes real professionalism to stand on 14 vs a dealers Ace. Few of us lack the brain cells needed for such a misantropotic a move. I salute you,Sir!
 

Sonny

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EasyRhino said:
Skyboy's system:

Step 1) Play roulette with big bets.
Step 2) Profit!

... I really don't see any way it could fail!
It's a little more complicated than that:

Step 1) Play roulette with big bets.
Step 2) When the house edge grinds you down, bet more.
Step 3) Profit!

Like you said, foolproof. :laugh:

-Sonny-
 

Sonny

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shadroch said:
Yep, it takes real professionalism to stand on 14 vs a dealers Ace.
Yeah, and he thinks he’s the first person to think of it too!

SkyBoy said:
No body will Stand at 14, 15, 16 regardless of the dealer card Except Me. ‎
What a joke. I can’t tell you how many superstitious ploppies I’ve seen always standing with 14, 15 and 16. If I had a nickel for every one of them I would be rich. He uses the same system every other gambler does: Stand on a stiff and double your bets as you lose. He actually thinks he invented the Martingale! Maybe if he invented it 3 centuries ago.

Throw in a little "flow of the cards" voodoo and a little "I can make the dealer bust" nonsense and you've got the casino's favorite kind of sucker. I hope he's at least getting some good comps.

-Sonny-
 

SkyBoy

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shadroch said:
Yep, it takes real professionalism to stand on 14 vs a dealers Ace. Few of us lack the brain cells needed for such a misantropotic a move. I salute you,Sir!
Professionalism <sometimes> tells you to behave like a solid mechanism‎
 

Sonny

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SkyBoy said:
Professionalism <sometimes> tells you to behave like a solid mechanism‎
Perhaps, but professionalism doesn’t mean playing inaccurately and using a worthless progression system. In fact, that's the opposite of professionalism. That’s the part you’re missing. You’re increasing the house edge and betting bigger into that disadvantage. It doesn’t take a professional to see how ridiculous that is.

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SkyBoy

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Sonny said:
Perhaps, but professionalism doesn’t mean playing inaccurately and using a worthless progression system. In fact, that's the opposite of professionalism. That’s the part you’re missing. You’re increasing the house edge and betting bigger into that disadvantage. It doesn’t take a professional to see how ridiculous that is.

-Sonny-
If it is increasing the house edge and I am geeting high profit, why nOt:grin:
 

EasyRhino

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Actually, SkyBoy, how much did you gamble between your last post (2005) and now, and how were the results of those sessions?
 

Sonny

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SkyBoy said:
If it is increasing the house edge and I am geeting high profit, why nOt:grin:
Because your luck will run out, and so will your money. You can't rely on luck and expect to win forever. That's exactly what every other gambler does, and look how much money the casinos earn. The casinos are smart because they don't rely on luck. They have the advantage over you. If you keep playing they will eventually get your money.

-Sonny-
 

SkyBoy

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EasyRhino said:
Actually, SkyBoy, how much did you gamble between your last post (2005) and now, and how were the results of those sessions?
I don't keep tracks; I don't play too many because there is no casino in my country and Gambling is against the law in my damn country.

Approximate between 2001-2007: (My winnings - My losses = $600,000) this is ‎including the money spent on BMW, Presidential Suit...etc


Sonny said:
Because your luck will run out, and so will your money. You can't rely on luck and expect to win forever. That's exactly what every other gambler does, and look how much money the casinos earn. The casinos are smart because they don't rely on luck. They have the advantage over you. If you keep playing they will eventually get your money.

-Sonny-
Is the luck with me more than 6 Years, You Are Kidding:grin:
 

Sonny

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SkyBoy said:
Is the luck with me more than 6 Years, You Are Kidding:grin:
It's up to you. It's your money and you can play however you want. Don't let my common sense deter your blind enthusiasm. Just don’t say I didn’t warn you. :rolleyes:

-Sonny-
 

Sonny

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zengrifter said:
I think he's got you there! zg
Yeah, the old Russian Roulette proof works every time. "The gun hasn't shot me yet, why worry?" :laugh:

-Sonny-
 

AnIrishmannot2brite

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Sonny said:
Yeah, the old Russian Roulette proof works every time. "The gun hasn't shot me yet, why worry?" :laugh:

-Sonny-
Heh heh heh!

I've had some great days with the strategy trainer in "virtual dollars". A few 35K days before i got bored and quit. then once over at yahoo games I went up ninety grand in one weekend. Just kept tripling losses in higher counts.

So it could happen for real. My estimate though is that this is a dangerous position for a gambler to be in. He doesn't realize that you don't get these positive variances every day nor maybe every year. So he expects high earnings every time.

It's a long ride home when this doesn't happen...

Now unless he's a trust funder and waits around for a new dividend check to come around every month I'd say he's being a fool to play a progression system.
 

Licentia

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Canceler said:
This is what I think of as the "tweaking phase", where small adjustments are made to a losing betting system to make it appear to work for a little longer.
Here we go! A conclusion is made without testing anything! Now, I will admit that Skyboy's system sounds a little bit "off", but you guys really have to stop dismissing everything before you try it.

Do card counters have low self-esteem? Why the need to bash others on a daily basis? It's not about caring to help someone, it is about putting people down.

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SkyBoy said:
Thanks Sonny for your effort

a Little change on the above statment:
" when i played at private roulette, i chose 12 fixed numbers (I call them my lucky numbers) and I add 3 numbers after spining which means a total of 15 numbers. my first weagering is $25 on each number (total of $375), if I lose I increase my weagering to $50, if I lose I maximize it to maximum $100 on each number (total of $6000)" > > If I continue to lose I will raise my bet to $200; Then $500; finally $1000. It is too hard to ‎lose 6 consecutive times (It happen to me BUT rarely)

The changes in RED; development is always required in any field (This is what we call it ‎PrOfEsSiOnAlIsM)‎
why do these people join these boards, i dont get it.. thats like joining a jewish board if your a nazi, it doesnt make sense.. your here to do what? change an entire board of counters/basic strategy players into crazy made up system players? betting systems do ONE THING, and that is change your rate of winning/losing or how you win/lose, but in the end, the amount lost will be the same.. for every 99 people out there that fail with a system, there is 1 that succeeds, but its just due to luck, and if you keep playing, you will eventually lose
 

Sonny

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Licentia said:
Now, I will admit that Skyboy's system sounds a little bit "off", but you guys really have to stop dismissing everything before you try it.
I don’t need to jump off a cliff to know what will happen. I don’t need to use a progression system to know what will happen. Common sense tells me that both situations will end badly. Following common logic can save you from a lot of mistakes…if you use it.

Licentia said:
Why the need to bash others on a daily basis? It's not about caring to help someone, it is about putting people down.
First we try to help someone. If they don’t understand, we try to explain things more clearly. If they purposely choose to ignore the proof and continue to tell lies, we have little choice. If somebody refuses to learn, what else can you do? How do you handle someone who wants to be ignorant? If you can ignore them, by all means do, but if they refuse to be ignored then you have to make sure that other people don’t make the same mistakes they are making. Since they can’t be educated, they force themselves to be ridiculed.

This becomes even more important when it comes to gambling systems. Many people have lost everything they have due to an irrational belief in a “foolproof” system. Even more people have lost money or been swindled by sneaky system sellers. Even though there is centuries of proof and common logic published in books and all over the internet, some people still don’t know that these systems are bogus. Knowing the truth can make a huge difference in someone’s life. I’d hate to think that someone quit their job and put their life savings behind an unfounded system they found on this website. The only way to protect people is to educate them. If they refuse to be educated then you must discredit them so that nobody else suffers their fate.

-Sonny-
 

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Sonny said:
First we try to help someone. If they don’t understand, we try to explain things more clearly. If they purposely choose to ignore the proof and continue to tell lies, we have little choice. If somebody refuses to learn, what else can you do? How do you handle someone who wants to be ignorant? If you can ignore them, by all means do, but if they refuse to be ignored then you have to make sure that other people don’t make the same mistakes they are making. Since they can’t be educated, they force themselves to be ridiculed.

This becomes even more important when it comes to gambling systems. Many people have lost everything they have due to an irrational belief in a “foolproof” system. Even more people have lost money or been swindled by sneaky system sellers. Even though there is centuries of proof and common logic published in books and all over the internet, some people still don’t know that these systems are bogus. Knowing the truth can make a huge difference in someone’s life. I’d hate to think that someone quit their job and put their life savings behind an unfounded system they found on this website. The only way to protect people is to educate them. If they refuse to be educated then you must discredit them so that nobody else suffers their fate.
-Sonny-
You will eventually err in your judgements. It is impossible for you or anyone to prove that there will never be another strategy found to be successful to beat BlackJack. When one comes along you will dismiss it. No one ever believed that anyone would set foot on the moon. It happened. There are probably thousands of ways to beat the casino just waiting to be discovered.

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Licentia

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Sonny said:
First we try to help someone. If they don’t understand, we try to explain things more clearly. If they purposely choose to ignore the proof and continue to tell lies, we have little choice. If somebody refuses to learn, what else can you do? How do you handle someone who wants to be ignorant? If you can ignore them, by all means do, but if they refuse to be ignored then you have to make sure that other people don’t make the same mistakes they are making. Since they can’t be educated, they force themselves to be ridiculed.
-Sonny-
This isn't true. The very first replies in these posts - including mine - contained harsh mockery. The more I hear it the more I determine to prove myself.

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