Agressive betting spread

razzle

Member
Hey everyone let me know if this betting spread seems to aggressive for casino play. I've been trying it out on my own with great success and sparingly in casino's in Reno. My only fear is it might be too aggressive, I have gotten no heat in the few times I have played it in Reno but I did get backed off in a smaller club in northern tahoe. Although I believe this happened mostly because I was playing basic strategy correctly because I wasn't up any money at the time.

I play the Uston SS system. I mostly play single deck, so my starting count is -4 and my strike count is 0. 4 red chips is my standard betting unit.
1/2 unit for counts less than -4. ($10)
1 unit for counts of -4 to -1. ($20)
1 1/2 units for counts of 0, +1. ($30)
2 units for a count of +2. ($40)
3 units for a count of +4. ($60)
4 units for a count of +4. ($80)
Two hands of 5 units for counts of +5 to +9. ($100)
Two hands of 7.5 units for counts of +10 or greater. ($150)

Let me know what you think.
 

bj bob

Well-Known Member
razzle said:
...but I did get backed off in a smaller club in northern tahoe. Although I believe this happened mostly because I was playing basic strategy correctly because I wasn't up any money at the time.


1/2 unit for counts less than -4. ($10)
1 unit for counts of -4 to -1. ($20)
1 1/2 units for counts of 0, +1. ($30)
2 units for a count of +2. ($40)
3 units for a count of +4. ($60)
4 units for a count of +4. ($80)
Two hands of 5 units for counts of +5 to +9. ($100)
Two hands of 7.5 units for counts of +10 or greater. ($150)
That's a 15:1 spread. Way too much for pitch games.
Where do you find a SD game 3:2 game at North Shore?
Let us know if your ramps are for SD, DD or shoe and we can advise accordingly.
 

razzle

Member
It was the crystal bay club. They had one pit with a ton of pit boss's. I got shuffled up on by one dealer and then asked to leave about an hour later. That was and will be the only time I've evered played in northern tahoe. I play mostly SD games because I like the fast turnover, but I have thought about moving to DD. Reno still has some really good 3:2 SD games though.
 

la_dee_daa

Well-Known Member
why the 1/2 units at -4 and the unit at -1, -4. ?

if your going to be spreading 1-15 why not bet your min in all negative counts or bet your 1 units at make it a 7.5 spread which should look a little better.
 

bj bob

Well-Known Member
razzle said:
It was the crystal bay club. They had one pit with a ton of pit boss's. I got shuffled up on by one dealer and then asked to leave about an hour later. That was and will be the only time I've evered played in northern tahoe. I play mostly SD games because I like the fast turnover, but I have thought about moving to DD. Reno still has some really good 3:2 SD games though.
Was this DD you were playing at the Crystal Bay? Last I've noticed there is that the DD games sucked, d10,nDAS, poor pen. Our man, Cardcounter will fill you in since he deals there. BTW, I'm still waiting for him to respond to my 6:5 challange there.
Anyway, getting back on point here, a 15:1 bet spread will get you escorted from any club on SD, DD games in Reno/ Tahoe. You actually were lucky by having been given a subtle "hint" of a shuffle-up prior to your boot. You should have taken it and casually removed yourself before they did. Use your head and consider that if your were shuffled up, then there was already some notice taken by someone. From that point on, it's just a matter of minutes until the tap.
The safest spread for SD there is 1:4, ONE HOUR SESSION.
......."...........".............."..........1:4x2 DD NINTY MINUTES.
 

moo321

Well-Known Member
That spread looks good for hit and run. Try the lazy-eyed psycho or ****-faced drunk guy acts. That style of play will get you lots of money, quickly. And get you kicked out quickly.
 

moo321

Well-Known Member
Just noticed the half unit at negative counts. Just don't play negative counts, and you'll be back to a 1-15 spread.
 

jimbiggs

Well-Known Member
Wow. I try to play 1-6 at SD, but mostly I keep it down to 1-5 or 1-4 depending on how much attention I'm getting.
 

moo321

Well-Known Member
jimbiggs said:
Wow. I try to play 1-6 at SD, but mostly I keep it down to 1-5 or 1-4 depending on how much attention I'm getting.
That's good for most people. But, if you have a good psycho act, or you're just willing to push the bets out there, you can get away with this for a short period of time. The most important thing is winning.
 
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