any sites for high opt 2 training

scorp1o1

Member
im hoping there is a site for high opt 2 trainER available on line can track the count and simulate actuall play at the same time is there any suggestions?
 

zengrifter

Banned
You'll need to buy training software, such as QFIT's Casino Verite. But I strongly advise you not to pursue HO2. zg
 

scorp1o1

Member
high opt 2 gone hello high low

well i took zens advice and stoped with the opt2 i can do a deck count in about 45 sec with complete accuracy pretty good i figure but my problem is when im practicing in a real situation just playing with the girlfriend and that i loose the count when i have to play my hand is this something that will come easier when i practice or am i missing a trick here
 

zengrifter

Banned
samsagaz said:
wich is the recommender order to count the cards?
1. FACE UP -

Dealer up card - then each player's two card hand - then each hit card - then dealer hole card - then dealer hit cards. ALWAYS THE SAME.

2. FACE DOWN (hand held)

Dealer upcard - then your hand - then other player hit cards - then other player hands as they bust out - then your hit cards - then dealer hole card and hit cards - then other players hands who didn't bust. ALWAYS THE SAME.

zg
 

scorp1o1

Member
well i hit the casino last night

well i hit the casino last night i never expected to win huge but i wanted to see where i stand. In my casino the dealer gives himself one face up card after the first round then gives everyone theyre second card, he plays everyone at once with his one hand, anyways i lasted 3 hours on a hundred dollars playing 10 dollar hands i was not able to actually count ( i should mention it is a six deck system) the whole shoe but i feel im where i should be for the practicing ive done maybe about half the shoe i lost it with remembering where i was at at the time of my play all the time does this sound about right yo you guys for about like 13 hours of practice. Also i have a tourny next wednesday any advice for a first timer
 

scorp1o1

Member
as im reading through the forums i keep thinking, how little i know so now i have another question. I need to find out what ev even is and i need to have a betting strategy, which i dont have at this time, guess the question to anyone is what is the best book or site for a new counter who wants to see some of the strategy options out there and what book or site must i have in my collection.
 

zengrifter

Banned
Start with Knockout BJ and/or Blackjack Zone, either available at this site's bookstore. 'EV' = expected value or expectation, a statistical quantification of what your win or loss is likely to be in a given number of hands. Good cardcounting yeilds an EV of 2+ units per 100 hands. zg
 

E-town-guy

Well-Known Member
aussiecounter said:
Books: Knockout Blackjack if you use KO count.
Professional Blackjack by Stanford Wong if you use Hi-Lo, or just get ]
I think there are more useful books then Wong's even if you use hi-lo, such as Blackbelt in BJ.
 

scorp1o1

Member
one thing i never mentioned and i realized today while reading jerry pattersons book Blackjack thats important, where i play they have automatic shufflers non continuous. What advantage does the house gain by miss plays by other players in the game with the auto shuffler is it better to find a heads up game. I already know that basic says that it doesnt matter but i was wondering if that was only with hand shuffles.
 

TimeKeeper

Well-Known Member
samsagaz said:
well what other book can i purchase with "Knockout Blackjack"?
"THE BLACKJACK ZONE" will be ok?
zengrifter told me to get "Blackbelt in Blackjack" and then 'Knockout.' Not sure why the former needs to be read first, but that's what his advice was.
 

scorp1o1

Member
i believe its because he had said to learn hi lo first and blacknelt is the book that corolates to that. Im pretty sure thats why if im wrong hell correct me im sure.
 
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