anyone stolen your own chips to give a lost record to yourself ?
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peaegg
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ratholing
Yes. All successful APs probably are doing it. Here is some suggestions from my experience and reading from books and postings.
No sense to take any if you play heads up.
Take small amount at a time. The key is to be discrete. If pit or the dealer sees your action, all the missing chips would be counted towards your winning.
Don't take large denomination chips that pit knows only you have it.
Take while you winning or losing. That will make their book shows your winning much smaller and your loss much bigger.
You can hold some chips in hand as you betting them and palm some to your pocket. Remember to take out something from the pocket to make it looking like you are getting stuff from it instead of dropping the chips.
If you can take chips away for a break, return with slightly less chips.
The last suggestion is that you should always pretend to cooperate if the pit or dealer wants to color your chips up. I don't palm chips when I leave a table. instead, I show the pit my chips with my open hand. They love that. This will also make them less likely to record the missing chips to your account.
Yes. All successful APs probably are doing it. Here is some suggestions from my experience and reading from books and postings.
No sense to take any if you play heads up.
Take small amount at a time. The key is to be discrete. If pit or the dealer sees your action, all the missing chips would be counted towards your winning.
Don't take large denomination chips that pit knows only you have it.
Take while you winning or losing. That will make their book shows your winning much smaller and your loss much bigger.
You can hold some chips in hand as you betting them and palm some to your pocket. Remember to take out something from the pocket to make it looking like you are getting stuff from it instead of dropping the chips.
If you can take chips away for a break, return with slightly less chips.
The last suggestion is that you should always pretend to cooperate if the pit or dealer wants to color your chips up. I don't palm chips when I leave a table. instead, I show the pit my chips with my open hand. They love that. This will also make them less likely to record the missing chips to your account.
Actually I would pocket them in a way that makes it dead obvious you're doing it to the cameras (but do it when the dealer/pit isn't looking).moo321 said:
Ploppies pocket chips ALL the time, for lots of dumb reasons. Doing it surreptitiously brings up all kinds of questions as to why you're doing it.
If there's someone watching you who cares that you're ratholing, you're already screwed.
Blue Efficacy
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I think players putting their own chips in their pockets is an extremely minor concern for the eye. It's the floor's job to do the accounting, not theirs.
paddywhack
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I agree here. You can't possibly know what the cameras see. I'm more concerned with the pit and the dealer NOT knowing that I have those chips when they're counting down the tray.pit15 said:
Reverse ratholing
I like to come to the table with a black classic palmed in my hand, buy in for red and green, and when the count is right, drop the black as I'm puttting a small stack on top of the black positioned like the "Savannah" move ala American Roullette. Good for about once or twice during shift. But the looks you get from the dealers when they miss the payoff or the checks play call. Run away.
I like to come to the table with a black classic palmed in my hand, buy in for red and green, and when the count is right, drop the black as I'm puttting a small stack on top of the black positioned like the "Savannah" move ala American Roullette. Good for about once or twice during shift. But the looks you get from the dealers when they miss the payoff or the checks play call. Run away.
tensplitter
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Rathole away twice your expected value.
Buy in with a $500 chip from another table, ask for $100 red chips, and rathole the $400 green chips you get in your pocket in plain sight. Ploppies do that if they want to set a limit for themselves. When you run out of reds, pull out 4 greens. If you're paid in green chips after a big bet that wins, rathole those greens. When it comes time to color up, pull out all but two green chips from your pocket.
Buy in with a $500 chip from another table, ask for $100 red chips, and rathole the $400 green chips you get in your pocket in plain sight. Ploppies do that if they want to set a limit for themselves. When you run out of reds, pull out 4 greens. If you're paid in green chips after a big bet that wins, rathole those greens. When it comes time to color up, pull out all but two green chips from your pocket.