ihate17
Well-Known Member
Please do not give history lessons when you know not what you are talking about
Add to this that one of the best cardcounting teams ever came from the Czech Republic and though the percentage of CSM's outside the U.S. is probably higher than in the U.S. it is very far from your stated 0. Try the Carribean, South America, Canada, several European Nations and some Asian nations (not Macau) and guess what, they use ASM's and even sometimes hand shuffle.
Cardcounting is unheard of outside the U.S? Guess what, I have been backed off in three other nations and I know of people who have the same kind of experiences. Hell, I was beaten and robbed in the parking lot of a casino in East Asia many years ago. And the Czech counting team learned how to count in Europe.
In Las Vegas the percentage of CSM's in use on blackjack tables has been reduced over the past 6 years. There may be a few more but only because there are many more tables. There are a grand total of ZERO CSM's in Nevada high limit room blackjack tables. The trend in the U.S. has been the opposite of your history record for more than half a decade.
The ASM is what might take over in the U.S. Just about as many hands as the CSM but where the CSM tables sit empty or have the lowest (lowest better often means slowest player) betting players, high rollers appear very willing to play a shoe shuffled by an ASM.
Finally, it has so far been proven that the opinion of a cardcounter has absolutely nothing to do with the decision to lease and then remove CSM's, which has happened at every Vegas casino. That power belongs not to counters and not too casino management. It belongs to the U.S. blackjack players who have voted over and over again, with their feet, against the CSM overwelmingly.
ihate17
It is Edwartd Thorp and not Ian who wrote beat The Dealer, which in fact did make blackjack popular but definately not in AC in the 1950's, unless he was playing with Sopranos father and uncle because there was no legal casino gambling in New Jersey in the 50,s or the 60's and early 70's for your historical record.Mr. T said:Sonny I have to part company with you here. The OP is right. CSM is going to dominate.
A liitle bit of history first. BJ was popularised and glamourisied by Ian Thrope, I probably got the spelling wrong, in AC in the 50's when he introduce card counting in the US. So it is a US original which has limited following outside the US.
Outside the US you will find that card counting is amost unheard of. CSM is already used in almost 100% of the BJ tables. The problems with the breakdown and jam cards that happened up to 1 year ago has more or less disappeared with the latest model that are presently in use.
Will the US follow the rest of the world. I would say that from a productivity stand point it will. They do much more rounds per hour, speed up the game and profit for the casino and is much less work for the dealers. But then there are guys like you and others who are always preaching against the CSM althouth it does not matter one bit if the player is not counting cards.
Add to this that one of the best cardcounting teams ever came from the Czech Republic and though the percentage of CSM's outside the U.S. is probably higher than in the U.S. it is very far from your stated 0. Try the Carribean, South America, Canada, several European Nations and some Asian nations (not Macau) and guess what, they use ASM's and even sometimes hand shuffle.
Cardcounting is unheard of outside the U.S? Guess what, I have been backed off in three other nations and I know of people who have the same kind of experiences. Hell, I was beaten and robbed in the parking lot of a casino in East Asia many years ago. And the Czech counting team learned how to count in Europe.
In Las Vegas the percentage of CSM's in use on blackjack tables has been reduced over the past 6 years. There may be a few more but only because there are many more tables. There are a grand total of ZERO CSM's in Nevada high limit room blackjack tables. The trend in the U.S. has been the opposite of your history record for more than half a decade.
The ASM is what might take over in the U.S. Just about as many hands as the CSM but where the CSM tables sit empty or have the lowest (lowest better often means slowest player) betting players, high rollers appear very willing to play a shoe shuffled by an ASM.
Finally, it has so far been proven that the opinion of a cardcounter has absolutely nothing to do with the decision to lease and then remove CSM's, which has happened at every Vegas casino. That power belongs not to counters and not too casino management. It belongs to the U.S. blackjack players who have voted over and over again, with their feet, against the CSM overwelmingly.
ihate17